Xu-Fu Strategy vs. Farmer Nishi

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 2

Cleansing Rain

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 3+

Water Jet until Siren dies

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Toothbreaker comes in

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 1

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 2

Cleansing Rain

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 3

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 4+

Water Jet until Toothbreaker dies

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Brood of Mothallus comes in

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 1

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 2+

Water Jet until Aqua Strider dies

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Bring in your Level Pet

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 1

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 2

Shock and Awe

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 3

Ion Cannon

Eternal Strider

Any Level 2+ Pet

Darkmoon Tonk

Pass

Bring in your Eternal Strider

Bring in your Darkmoon Tonk

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Eternal Strider

Swap to your Darkmoon Tonk

Swap to your Level Pet

Siren comes in

Toothbreaker comes in

Brood of Mothallus comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

The way her carrots turn out, I wonder if she chose the right profession...

Seiri wrote on 2017-07-13 12:30:11

I have a tdScript for this that seems to work! I don't quite know what i'm doing so there's probably a better way of doing it, seem's to work fine though :)

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(230) [enemy.round=2]
ability(297) [enemy.round=3]
ability(297) [enemy.round=4]
ability(118)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(230) [enemy.round=2]
ability(297) [enemy.round=3]
ability(297) [enemy.round=4]
ability(118)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(118)
change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).active]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
ability(209) [enemy.hp<=1098]
ability(646)
endif

Silifaira wrote on 2020-06-21 20:03:32

Thank you!! This worked great.

Glyndorn

wrote on 2024-08-13 11:14:46

I found that it didnt allow for a finishing move when on last pet used ability's on cooldown. I used Missile as a filler. Here is a modified and simplified version of the above script to do the same as above with the needed filler

use(Pump:297) [enemy.round~1,3,4]
use(Cleansing Rain:230) [enemy.round=2]
use(Water Jet:118)
change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).active]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
use(Ion Cannon:209) [enemy.hp<=1098]
use(Shock and Awe:646)
use(Missile:777) (edited)

JaxMugen8

wrote on 2024-08-26 16:33:07

I believe the team, script and strategy were from before Mothallus was changed to a critter (used to be a beast) - so they probably ddidn't need a filler in the prior script as Shock and Awe and Ion Cannon would both have been doing 50% more damage.

Thanks for your update though; worked a treat.

Merchron wrote on 2020-10-02 18:54:15

This is the script as described above. It does not take into account crits like one-shotting Toothbreaker as I did once.

change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#2).played]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=3 & enemy(#2).active]
ability(Cleansing Rain) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Water Jet)
ability(Shock and Awe)
ability(Ion Cannon) (edited)

GCSuns

wrote on 2021-07-09 21:07:34

Great script. (edited)

Azero

wrote on 2022-12-02 10:31:25

This script works great - the rematch string does not.

DavidG

wrote on 2021-06-30 02:59:31

With the changes in 9.1 where Brood of Mothallus is now a critter, Ion Cannon is less effective. Combine that with the possibility of a crit for his Consume ability, and you shouldn't use Ion Cannon till his HP is 394 or less. That in turn means you might need a Missile after the Shock and Awe to guarantee the kill. Other than that, this strategy is still rock solid post 9.1

Another thought, I may well investigate trying this with a Microbot XD in the last slot for a "Supercharge" "Ion-Cannon" 1-2 kill. Watch this space for details. (edited)

wrote on 2021-06-30 07:35:21

I confirm Mothallus is now a Critter (bizarre change).

However, Ion Cannon hits for 732, and I did not see an Elite buff on Brood (I should have checked more closely before finishing!) so I didn't need an extra Missile. My Ion Cannon did hit for the full 732 and my Shock and Awe for the full 439.

DavidG

wrote on 2021-07-04 04:48:40

Elite buff isn't the problem. Consume is, which he casts close to every other round. Specifically, the risk is that he casts Consume on the same round that you cast Ion Cannon, and it crits. This can heal him for base 180 HP, plus 50% for the crit, plus 25% for the debuff Acidic Goo places on your pet. That lot can add up to a total heal of 337, before you get to hit him with the Ion Cannon.

That said, I just tried it with a Microbot XD (*,2,2) in the bottom slot, and got a reliable kill with Supercharge / Ion Cannon. I'll be switching to that strat for this one for now.

Sheltim

wrote on 2020-12-28 06:25:41

As of 12/28/2020, Sunlight (from Siren) hits backline pets for 248 (this was with an Elemental leveling pet, so no +/- damage). The leveling pet probably needs to be level 3+.

Dakender#1566

wrote on 2020-09-06 11:25:05

Not Owner of strat but did test in Beta: Works just fine as it is.

Sneaks

wrote on 2020-09-02 20:42:46

Darkmoon Zeppelin instead of the Tonk. Once the Strider dies, swap directly to Zeppelin. Missile until Brood is >618 (one was enough for me), then explode, and level pet gets max xp.

DaR#1285

wrote on 2018-12-14 02:52:23

ability(Pump) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Water Jet) [enemy.round=2 & enemy(#3).active]
change(next) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).played]
ability(Cleansing Rain) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Pump) [enemy.round=4 & enemy(#1).active]
ability(Water Jet)
ability(Shock and Awe) [enemy.hp > 1098]
ability(Ion Cannon)

Koru08#1614

wrote on 2020-06-22 21:57:51

Still Work on BFA 8.3

Swann

wrote on 2020-08-14 06:07:34

Worked perfectly for me today.

cogar328

wrote on 2020-07-10 09:15:41

I used Darkmoon Tank and exploded when Moth was <500 or so

-5

gbh102 wrote on 2019-08-17 05:24:48

Since above strat DOES NOT work at all, I went, as mentioned in comments, with Anubisath Idol, did as follows:
1. Aqua Strider - pump - cleansing rain - pump, Strider dies, swap to >>>
2. carry pet, swap to >>>
3. Anubisath Idol - sandstorm (and then on cd) - deflection (when Burrow) - crush as filler. Took ages yet worked perfectly ;) (edited)

wrote on 2019-08-17 08:46:56

There are several variants of this strat, using similar but not identical moves. I have been using one such variant since Mists. In fact, when testing I kept doing it wrong because I am so used to doing it my way.

The strat as written here, and using an Aqua Strider, works, unless Siren's Solar Beam crits (5% chance), or unless the Pump into Toothbreaker crits. The Pump crit has happened to me occasionally. You can still win in that case, but I always have to wake up and think where I am instead of following the strat when it happens.

HOWEVER, as written here today, I see two points of failure:

1. Siren's Sunlight does 165 damage to the backline pets, excluding any family effects. Most Level 1 pets don't have 165 health, and certainly not 248 to be safe against a crit. I suggest a health limit on the levelling pet. I see Remte noted this in the comments long ago.

2. Both of Nishi's first two pets have speeds of 280. The Skimmer/Strider/whatever in the first slot needs speed >280. Some of the possible substitutes offered - Fishy, Sea Pony, P/P Freshwater Crawler - don't. I suggest a speed requirement > 280 in the Slot 1 pet.

wrote on 2019-08-17 08:50:58

Now, about your "Aqua Strider - pump - cleansing rain - pump, Strider dies". This will happen only if Siren's Solar Beam crits, which as I said is a 5% chance. When you say the strat doesn't work at all, I have to wonder how many times you tried, and whether you looked at your pet battle chat window to see why. It's possible to get unlucky a couple of times in a row, but not common, and always worth figuring out what happened.

P.S. Just as an aftrthought, I'm pretty sure "Aqua Strider - pump - cleansing rain - pump, Strider dies" can't happen even with a crit from Solar Beam, though I'm not in-game to check now. (edited)

Shenk

wrote on 2019-08-17 09:58:22

sooo... minimum health is 166; 110 as a critter. i don't go for the 248 in case of a crit since this is rare enough to be tolerable in my opinion. (level 1 H/H pets meet that requirement)
iirc not even a sunbeam crit will kill the strider. i think the few times mine died early was against toothbreaker. and it won't matter that much because toothbreaker runs out of steam very fast anyway (edited)

wrote on 2020-03-16 08:47:42

@Gráinne - you've made a bunch of posts &/or replies here with comments like, "yeah, but..." & "see my comment below," and - worst of all - "i've always done it this way" ("i've been using [this] Mists" was your exact wording) - but you're failing to address/acknowledge the fact that Blizzard has overhauled ALL pet battles TWICE since BfA launched - instead of making excuses about how good your strat really is, maybe it's time to accept that you need a new one. THIS one doesn't work most of the time now.

-1

wrote on 2020-03-16 18:51:07

"Blizzard has overhauled ALL pet battles TWICE since BfA launched"? What?? No they didn't. When did they overhaul this one? I'm not even sure what you mean. How did they change it? What stats did they change in this battle? What ability effects did they change in this battle? They nerfed BRD twice; is that what you're thinking of?

When you fail a battle, all the information that exists about a battle is in your log after completing it, so my basic answer to everything is: READ. YOUR. LOG. Other people can read their logs for you, and interpret them for you, but you will never learn that way. You will never figure out whether the battle went bad because of RNG built into the game, like crits, hit chances, damage ranges, or because of breeds and abilities. Only the log will tell you that.

I went back to last August and pulled my tests of this strat. I paste the log from one test below. It has all the information you could ever want.

-1

wrote on 2020-03-16 18:51:54

Round 1", -- [1]
[Pump] applied [Pumped Up] to your Aqua Strider.", -- [2]
[Sunlight] dealt 165 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [3]
[Sunlight] dealt 248 damage to your Darkmoon Tonk (Strong).", -- [4]
[Sunlight] dealt 165 damage to your Snowsoft Nibbler.", -- [5]
[Sunlight] changed the weather to [Sunny Day].", -- [6]
Round 2", -- [7]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 122 damage from your Aqua Strider.", -- [8]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 122 damage from your Darkmoon Tonk.", -- [9]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 119 damage from your Snowsoft Nibbler.", -- [10]
[Sunny Day] is no longer the weather.", -- [11]
[Cleansing Rain] changed the weather to [Cleansing Rain].", -- [12]
[Photosynthesis] applied [Photosynthesis] to enemy Siren.", -- [13]
[Photosynthesis] healed 0 damage from enemy Siren.", -- [14]
Round 3", -- [15]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Siren (Strong).", -- [16]
[Solar Beam] dealt 662 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [17]
[Photosynthesis] healed 100 damage from enemy Siren.", -- [18]
Round 4", -- [19]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Siren (Strong).", -- [20]
[Photosynthesis] healed 103 damage from enemy Siren.", -- [21]
Round 5", -- [22]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Siren (Strong).", -- [23]
[Photosynthesis] healed 106 damage from enemy Siren.", -- [24]
Round 6", -- [25]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Siren (Strong).", -- [26]
Enemy Siren died.", -- [27]
Round 6", -- [28]
Toothbreaker is now enemy active pet.", -- [29]
Round 7", -- [30]
[Pumped Up] fades from your Aqua Strider.", -- [31]
[Pump] dealt 1125 damage to enemy Toothbreaker (Strong).", -- [32]
[Sons of the Root] applied [Submerged] to enemy Toothbreaker.", -- [33]
[Sons of the Root] applied [Sons of the Root] to enemy team.", -- [34]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [35]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [36]
Round 8", -- [37]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 96 damage from your Aqua Strider.", -- [38]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 107 damage from your Darkmoon Tonk.", -- [39]
[Cleansing Rain] healed 46 damage from your Snowsoft Nibbler.", -- [40]
[Cleansing Rain] is no longer the weather.", -- [41]
[Cleansing Rain] changed the weather to [Cleansing Rain].", -- [42]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [43]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [44]
Round 9", -- [45]
[Pump] applied [Pumped Up] to your Aqua Strider.", -- [46]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [47]
[Sons of the Root] dealt 75 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [48]
[Submerged] fades from enemy Toothbreaker.", -- [49]
[Sons of the Root] fades from enemy team.", -- [50]
Round 10", -- [51]

-1

wrote on 2020-03-16 18:52:10

Round 10", -- [51]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Toothbreaker (Strong).", -- [52]
[Leech Seed] dealt 150 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [53]
[Leech Seed] healed 157 damage from enemy Toothbreaker.", -- [54]
[Leech Seed] applied [Leech Seed] to your Aqua Strider.", -- [55]
[Leech Seed] dealt 37 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [56]
[Leech Seed] healed 37 damage from enemy Toothbreaker.", -- [57]
Round 11", -- [58]
[Water Jet] dealt 500 damage to enemy Toothbreaker (Strong).", -- [59]
Enemy Toothbreaker died.", -- [60]
[Leech Seed] dealt 37 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [61]
[Leech Seed] fades from your Aqua Strider.", -- [62]
Round 11", -- [63]
Brood of Mothallus is now enemy active pet.", -- [64]
Round 12", -- [65]
[Pumped Up] fades from your Aqua Strider.", -- [66]
[Pump] dealt 750 damage to enemy Brood of Mothallus.", -- [67]
[Acidic Goo] applied [Acidic Goo] to your Aqua Strider.", -- [68]
[Acidic Goo] dealt 46 damage to your Aqua Strider.", -- [69]
Your Aqua Strider died.", -- [70]
Round 12", -- [71]
Snowsoft Nibbler is now your active pet.", -- [72]
Round 13", -- [73]
Darkmoon Tonk is now your active pet.", -- [74]
[Burrow] applied [Underground] to enemy Brood of Mothallus.", -- [75]
Player forfeits.", -- [76]
[Battle Recovery] healed 10 damage from your Darkmoon Tonk.", -- [77]

Shenk

wrote on 2020-03-17 05:01:23

Goddamn these spam bots

Hammerforge

wrote on 2019-10-20 20:51:13

Sunlight now appears to hit your backline pets and will kill your level pet if it's a lvl1.

wrote on 2019-10-20 22:17:47

I covered this in my comment below. The Sunlight hits for 165, which will kill most level 1 pets, other than Magic or Mechanicals. That's why the curators added the HP > 165 requirements.

wrote on 2020-03-16 08:48:49

It also kills any up to and including level 3

wrote on 2020-03-16 18:22:59

No. It kills any with health less than 166, regardless of level, except Magic or Mechanical. However, there are some level 1s with HP>165, including all H/Hs with basehealth>8, like Spawn of Garalon or Winter Rageling. They'll survive fine, even at level 1, barring crits. There are some level 3s with HP<166. It will kill those, except Critters, Magic, Mechanical.

That's why Shenk specifically added the HP>165 condition. Level is only a guideline here.

Jana wrote on 2019-06-16 21:30:08

Just swap Aqua Strider for Mirror Strider (H/S)

wrote on 2020-03-16 08:52:07

Perfect! Thank you.

Shaei

wrote on 2019-09-03 07:21:52

If using Fishy (or another adequate replacement to Eternal Strider that is slower than 280--NOTE: Untested with pets other than Fishy!), the order I use is this:

- Cleansing Rain
- Pump (charging)
- Pump (if Siren dies here, skip the next step)
- Water Jet (Siren dies, Toothbreaker enters)
- Pump (charging)
- Cleansing Rain
- Pass (or Water Jet...whatever, it won't hit)
- Pump
- Water Jet til Fishy dies (Toothbreaker should die, and you should get some damage on Brood of Mothallus)
- Bring in leveing pet, and immediately swap to Darkmoon Tonk:
- Shock and Awe
- Ion Cannon
(edited)

Noctiluca

wrote on 2018-10-20 19:36:33

As Hermy mentioned, for this strat to work exactly as written you need to have a 1st pet faster then 280speed. If not Toothbreaker will cast Sons of the Root before you can get off the Pump and it will be blocked. Most striders are inherently that way but I tried to use a P/P Freshwater Crawler for added power and it messed up.

wrote on 2019-07-14 12:20:12

Perfect!! This is what i needed - the main strat was failing for me repeatedly (ate up 11mins of a pet xp buff!), until i swapped the Aqua Strider for the Eternal Strider. Boom! First try!!

Lucas wrote on 2019-01-15 14:07:50

Well, Anub can solo this, with 2 leveling pets

Shiholude74 wrote on 2019-02-09 23:38:52

I use Anub in other strats, and I personally hate Anub. God forbid someone offers another strategy then yours... If only there was an alternative stragey feature for this site!! Oh wait...

Sarahlinii

wrote on 2019-02-27 01:13:31

Care to share the strategy for that then Lucas?

wrote on 2019-02-27 06:28:58

It's not hard to find. From Auraia on Wowhead

Anubisath (Crush, Sandstorm, Deflection) + two leveling pets.
First sandstorm, next crush, then deflection (solar beam). Crush til deflection off CD, use again. Toothbreaker submerges ASAP, so swap in low levels first two turns (sandstorm protects them). Then roll on with crushing. For Brood, Crush Crush Deflect, repeat.

I'm pretty sure I used some variation of this myself back in Mists, before I had All The Pets.

I do see an Anub and Tonk strat available here, which is probably similar, just using the Tonk to speed up the third kill.

Allowing people to enter their own strats has been a huge success for Xu-Fu's, but it has discouraged people from just leaving their ideas in the comments, which was always one of the site's strengths. It could be done without committing to a sign-up and taking a couple of hours to find their way around the editor and lay out a strat properly.

Anonymous wrote on 2019-06-17 02:48:17

Everyone and their mother knows about the Anubisath Idol strat. Its been the go-to since MoP was current. I love this site because it often offers faster alternatives. Total XP gained is limited so leveling 2 pets or 1, it doesn't really matter since your net gain in pet XP is the same. Many people have their sights set on getting a specific pet to max level as fast as possible, and alternative 2 pet strats can make this fight go a lot faster since the Idol strat is tedious and long.

DavidG wrote on 2018-03-11 21:53:39

I very strongly recommend skipping the Aqua Strider, since it's S/S - that means low health and low power. This strategy and the third alternative are much easier with a P/S Eternal Strider.

wrote on 2018-03-12 03:21:48

This strategy was uploaded when it was easier to keep track on pets with a single breed.

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-03-12 05:19:45

DavidG's right though. Eternal Striders are found north-west of Farmer Nishi in the Vale just over the mountain. It takes 35 seconds to reach them from Nishi on a 310% flyer, I timed it.
I'm not sure if you're the same David G that posted the work-arounds below for 1-shotting the elementals but I've written a TDScript that includes them. I'll post it on the alt 3 page tomorrow as I've not tested it fully yet and I've already defeated Nishi today.

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-03-18 05:06:04

Oh maaaaaaan. I've only just remembered this. My WoW install got corrupted and I had to reinstall the entire game. I didn't trust the back-up files either so did the whole thing from scratch. Lost all my ~150 pet teams and scripts. That script took ages to get right as well. >.<
I'll try and get it rewritten and posted today.

Jagûar

wrote on 2018-12-28 01:01:40

I've used an H/S Mirror Strider for 2-3 months now.. before that I used what ever pet was suggested for pet slot 1. And it worked 9/10 times. Now it works 10/10 times

Eekwibble

wrote on 2018-12-28 09:32:39

PS Eternal Strider and D/moon Zep w/ Explode is still faster, though. =P

thetravellor#1451

wrote on 2018-06-18 08:16:01

works perfectly

Hermy wrote on 2017-09-14 15:09:30

I use a similar strat - you can use a L1 pet as long as it's a Magic or Mechanical pet, as their special "things" mitigate the AOE damage, otherwise a L4+ is safe. I never have to restart.

Any Strider/Skimmer that's faster than 280, Darkmoon Tonk and a Level Pet.

Pump
Cleansing Rain
Water Jet until Siren dies

(Toothbreaker comes out)
Pump
Cleansing Rain
Water Jet until Toothbreaker dies

(Brood of Mothallus comes out)
Pump
Swap to Level pet
Swap to Darkmoon Tonk
Ion Cannon

The only problem I've ever had, was that Mothallus had a crit with his first leeching spell, and ended up with more than 1098 HP, but I just nuked him with Shock and Awe once the Tonk had recovered.

David G wrote on 2016-12-30 18:30:01

Critical strikes by the strider with pump can be worked around. If it crits against Siren, getting a one hit kill, then use the following sequence against Toothbreaker:

1: Pump
2: Pass
3: Cleansing Rain
4: Pump (*)
5: Pump
6+ Water Jet till Toothbreaker dies.

(*) If this pump crits as well, then just Water Jet Brood of Mothallus to 50% health, and then chain pass till you die.

If you don't crit against Siren, but do crit and get a one hit kill with the round 1 Pump vs Toothbreaker, then just as above, Water Jet till either you die, or Brood of Mothallus hits half health, and then chain pass.

Clean up as noted with a Darkmoon Tonk. The one thing to watch for with the Tonk is that you don't want Brood of Mothallus doing an Absorb on the round you Explode, otherwise you risk not killing him.

I usually ensure that doesn't happen by dropping him below 618, and only then casting Decoy. If he does an Absorb on that round, you have the option to cast a single Missile to get him back below 618, after which you can explode safely. With the CD on Absorb, he can cast it the round you Explode, but the Decoy will still be up thatround which will guarantee to block it.

David G wrote on 2016-12-30 18:39:39

Ugh. Not thinking right when I wrote that. That should be the Darkmoon Zeppelin, not the Tonk, and to be totally honest this comment should be on the page for strategy number 3,

Although the comments about crits with the strider still stand.

Uabhar wrote on 2016-11-17 14:44:00

I never have to restart the fight and I use the Aqua Strider and Darkmoon Tonk. I do it differently from step 7:
7 - Water Jet
8 - Cleansing Rain
9 - Pump till toothbreaker dies
Blood of Mothallus comes in
10 - Cleansing Rain
Swap to levelling pet
Swap to Darkmoon Tonk
11 - Shock and Awe
12 - Ion Cannon

Works 100% of the time and it's very quick

wrote on 2016-11-19 04:00:25

Hm. Now that I notice, I never have to restart either. I think I got this from Mel's guide, or possibly Rendigar? From memory:

4 - Pump (charging)
5 - Water Jet until Siren dies (usually twice)
6 - Pump into Toothbreaker
7 - Cleansing Rain
8 - Pump (charging)
9 - Water Jet until Toothbreaker dies (usually twice)
Mothallus comes in
1 - Pump into Mothallus
2 - Swap in Level Pet (as Mothallus goes under)
3 - Swap back to Strider, who dies from Mothallus' Burrow
Bring in Tonk
1 - Ion Cannon if in range to kill, otherwise a softener first

Aranesh

wrote on 2016-11-22 14:01:00

Absolutely the better version. Thanks, edited the strat :-)

Saintgabrial wrote on 2016-11-25 21:07:46

Instead of the Darkmoon tonk I use Darkmoon Zeppelin. One Missile and explode. Your EXP pet NEVER has to enter combat and gets all the EXP.

OH! And you can use a level 1+ EXP pet.

Turn 1 Pump
Turn 2 Cleansing Rain
Turn 3 Pump
Turn 4 Pump
Turn 5+ Water Jet until Siren dies
Toothbreaker comes in
Turn 1 Pump
Turn 2 Cleansing Rain
Turn 3 Pump
Turn 4+ Water Jet until Toothbreaker dies
Brood of Mothallus comes in
Turn 1 Pump
Turn 2+ Water Jet until your Aqua Strider dies
Bring in Darkmoon Zeppelin
Decoy or pass, as he goes under ground from Burrow.
Turn 1 Missile
Turn 2 explode - The END
Your EXP pet gets all the EXP for being the only surviving pet on your team.

wrote on 2016-11-27 13:25:02

You can't use any 1+ pet because there's an AoE in the beginning, and some can't survive that.
Other than that, I can agree.

Saintgabrial wrote on 2016-11-28 19:41:54

True. I used level 1 pets twice but I did test it on a few others and yes it will depend on the pet. Level pets Health must be 166+ so most level 3+ and a few under can do this. Also depends if its weak to its Sunlight (Elemental) attack, so a mechanical leveling pet will have to have 250+ health so around level 5+.

Also today Toothbreaker got a crit on my Aqua Strider so my Darkmoon tonk had to do 2 missiles then explode.

wrote on 2016-11-29 01:11:34

I wouldn't be such concerned about mechanical ones as (if we go with no other damage than this one) they resurrect themselves and stay in the battle when unharmed. And magic pets are quite safe too.
You used Zeppelin, of course.

wrote on 2016-11-11 04:42:20

You're all right. :) I've typed an Aqua Strider to eliminate multiple breed issues, and Darkmoon Tonk is just a wildcard for any burst damage performed in two rounds.

Though I prefer crossing Pump and Water Jet dependably on the enemy HP left (and keeping possible damage buffs), if a Pump crits, it's waaay faster. ;-)

Ulrikekekeka wrote on 2016-11-07 20:53:38

Dancing Water Skimmer (H/B) 1-1-2
Clockwork Gnome (S/B) 1-1-1
Carry pet (165+ health to survive AoE dmg) Any

1. Start with Skimmer.
2. 4x Pump.
3. If Siren isn't dead, finish with Water Jet.
Toothbreaker comes in.
4. Swap to Clockwork Gnome.
5. Repair
6. As soon as repair is finished, swap back to Skimmer.
7. 4x Pump. Toothbreaker should be dead.
Brood of Mothallus comes in.
8. 1x Water Jet.
9. Swap to carry pet.
10. Swap to Clockwork Gnome.
11. Build Turret.
12. Metal Fist until Brood of Mothallus dies.

Vhale wrote on 2016-09-22 23:25:52

This is close to what I do, though I use a generic strider and Iron Star

Xna - Doomhammer wrote on 2016-07-29 04:05:37

This worked best for me. I used Eternal Strider as my Aqua wasnt 25.

Hanswurst wrote on 2020-03-15 05:03:41

German TD SCript:
ability(Pumpen) [enemy.round=1]
ability(Wasserjet) [enemy.round=2 & enemy(#3).active]
change(next) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).played]
ability(Reinigender Regen) [enemy.round=2]
ability(Pumpen) [enemy.round=3]
ability(Pumpen) [enemy.round=4 & enemy(#1).active]
ability(Wasserjet)
ability(Verunsicherungstaktik) [enemy.hp > 1098]
ability(Ionenkanone)

antiromantik#2444

wrote on 2019-01-20 04:28:21

TD Script с первого раза:

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(230) [enemy.round=2]
ability(297) [enemy.round=3]
ability(297) [enemy.round=4]
ability(118)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(230) [enemy.round=2]
ability(297) [enemy.round=3]
ability(297) [enemy.round=4]
ability(118)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(297) [enemy.round=1]
ability(118)
change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#3).active]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
ability(209) [enemy.hp<=1098]
ability(646)
endif

Nitania

wrote on 2018-05-17 22:28:09

Превая попытка и мой долгоног не выжил. Также если Долгоног быстрее Зуболома, нелья использовать Брандспойт в 3м раунде. В таком случае против Зуболома лучше начинать Сильная струя воды, Брандспойт, Очищающий дождь, Брандспойт.