PvP Pet Tier List

cold wrote on 2021-10-02 01:18:47

Is pvp battling completely dead?
I keep facing the exact same opponent and team all the time.
Fox/Twilight Clutch Sister/Bone Serpent.
He talks trash through his pet names and has been doing it for years; anyone else struggling with long wait times/exact same opponents always?

wrote on 2021-10-04 16:42:54

yeah, pet pvp is dead
and to counter that team you could play a sandstorm team, maybe try a S/S sandyback crawler

Mad wrote on 2021-06-23 10:35:26

Any update you foresee for the update 9.1? Any pets we might want to focus on to get?

wrote on 2021-06-23 10:55:19

Mawsworn Minion (*/2/*) might be an interesting tank pet. It isn't OP but I can't wait to test it :)

wrote on 2021-06-23 18:41:16

One thing that is always a problem for predicting whether a pet will be good is that we never know the available breed(s) until the patch goes live. Imagine we didn't have the Fiendish Imp, but it was scheduled for 9.1, We could look at the moveset and say "I HOPE it's going to be fast" but until we see the available stats, we really can't say.

Toothpick wrote on 2021-03-11 00:37:35

Is Will of Remornia a good pvp pet? What abilities should be used?

wrote on 2021-03-14 20:25:04

It's an ok pet if you run the heal in the 1st slot, cleave 2nd and heal in 3rd. You should be able to survive enough to get two cleaves off which is ok damage but not like Anomalus levels.

wrote on 2021-02-26 10:14:16

How about the S/S Nightshade Sproutling (*/2/1)? It's even stronger than before because of the weather changes.

wrote on 2021-03-08 12:22:23

technically yes but i personally never liked to play it with darkness. the NS was pretty popular back in legion. darkness was a meta strat back then and the most used darkness pet was the boneserpent. NS was a good combo because it was really hard to kill due to both the blind and the healing which couldn't be prevented by darkness.

this playstyle nowadays would be too slow to be competetive against other meta teams and if you'd want to play with darkness then there are just better pets for that right now. also 325 speed aren't enough anymore

wrote on 2021-03-11 11:52:23

it's not just because of darkness. darkness + blinding poison make this pet strong. And 325 speed is still decent. I think it deserves at least a Tier 3. Just a suggestion :)

wrote on 2021-03-12 20:37:02

325 is only decent if you are not playing against meta teams.

wrote on 2021-03-12 21:39:43

I'm curious what are the "meta teams"? Nevertheless in my opinion the S/S Nightshade Sproutling (*/2/1) is a strong pvp pet even with "average" speed stats. (edited)

wrote on 2021-03-14 20:20:47

I'm surprised that the Nightshade isn't on here albeit tier 3, I will add it when I'm not on mobile. There's various speed breakpoints 325, 341, 349 and 366 for the faster pets. With the Nightshade being at the lowest'fast' group it's very susceptible to being slower. (edited)

wrote on 2021-03-14 23:48:27

we removed the nightshade on the 19th january 2020 (some genius put it in the changelog)

wrote on 2021-03-15 10:26:55

Probably needs adding again simply because it has call darkness carrying it

wrote on 2021-03-17 20:52:43

Nightshade added

wrote on 2021-03-17 22:14:02

Great :)

wrote on 2020-12-08 16:29:07

Arachnoid Skitterbot (1/1/1) is missing. I think it is one of the tankiest pet in the game + it's a really fast pet. Won a lot of games with it :) (edited)

wrote on 2020-12-09 13:14:16

It's one of those pets that's great vs weak teams but bad vs meta comps especially Aoe, Sandstorm and Dazzling Dance.

wrote on 2020-12-09 14:58:37

Yep think you are right. I haven't played in the current meta yet. Weathereffects are really powerfull now (or an issue) :D

wrote on 2020-12-09 16:39:04

The issue with buffed weather is it's pretty difficult to compete against them when you aren't also using a buffed weather

wrote on 2020-12-08 02:03:05

Errors:

1. Direbeak Hatchling is listed twice, appearing in tier 2 and 3.
2. Dusky Dreadwing Pup in Tier 3 is listed with the condition of Toxic Fumes weather, but with a moveset that's unaffected by Toxic Fumes

Queries:

1. S/S Alpine Foxling went from Tier 1 to completely absent, is this intented?
2. You recommend Spirit Claws on Cursed Birman. With 289 speed, is an 80% hit chance move, or 70% during darkness, better than Pounce?
3. You list the Spectral Raven with Nocturnal Strike instead of Call Darkness. If this is intended, perhaps it would be best to list a condition of using other pets with Call Darkness.

wrote on 2020-12-08 15:40:21

Errors:
1. Fixed
2. Dusky Dreadwing has Huge Fang.

Queries:
1. Alpine Foxling suffered from several changes; power creep for Dazzling Dance pets, Flurry being fixed and weathers being buffed. You can still use it and it will be ok but if you're choosing it for Dazzling Dance there are much better options.
2. The combo is Prowl into Darkness so to an extent the first slot doesn't matter significantly.
3. Fixed to Darkness.

wrote on 2020-12-08 15:47:12

How does https://www.wowhead.com/pet-ability=930/huge-fang benefit from Toxic Fumes?

wrote on 2020-12-08 15:56:21

It has a hidden interaction of ramping up to max straight away.

wrote on 2020-12-09 00:47:31

Bloody hell, really? Okay, that's a bizarre bug. Is it only Huge Fang that works that way, or do other ramping abilities like Deep Bite or Vicious Fang skip ahead too? (edited)

wrote on 2020-12-09 16:07:35

Vicious Fang is the only other one I believe. I've been told that back at the start of pet battles they worked with poison in some way and it appears as if the mechanic of Toxic Fumes still buffs it.

Spoofmasta wrote on 2020-11-27 04:41:02

Bronze Proto-Whelp ability Bend Time comment on warcraftpet.com sounds as though it is fixed. Anyone confirm?

wrote on 2020-11-28 09:58:29

its still broken

Spoofmasta wrote on 2020-12-02 02:52:10

Hey thanks. May b only reason i stopped subbing.

wrote on 2020-11-19 17:16:30

Because of 9.0.2 changes Call Darkness+Nocturnal Strike is now Tier 1?! :D

wrote on 2020-11-21 09:20:18

We are planning to update the list once Shadowlands is fully released so new pets can be added. The fledgling warden owl/crimson skipper are the best with this combo as they can two shot 1400hp.

nightflight

wrote on 2020-10-17 20:57:24

why does it have murkalot on Tier 1, the ability Righteous Inspiration is how played?

wrote on 2020-09-10 11:40:22

A team I run into a lot and have been having trouble countering is 2x Anomalus and a Hermit Crab. One Anomalus uses Toxic Fumes and the other uses Void Nova. I've recently been running a team comprised of Qiraji Guardling (1/2/2), Wicked Soul (1/2/2), and Gleamhoof Fawn (1/2/1). Usually it's a strong healing team, but against this matchup only the Qiraji Guardling pulls its weight. Sandstorm helps to mitigate the damage of Poison Protocol, but then he changes the weather to Toxic Fumes and unleashes a stronger second Poison Protocol. If I save Sandstorm until after Poison Fumes is out then it's too late. Corrosion and Posison Protocol destroy the Qiraji without the buffer of a sandstorm. My backline pets take too much damage for the usual strategy of swapping and using group heals to be a net positive health gain. The Wicked Soul does nothing to the Hermit Crab, and the Gleamhoof Fawn takes strong damage from the Hermit Crab if it uses its Nature's Ward.

I've tried teams with strong damage against magic, but most of them rely on Scorched Earth, which comes back to bite me if I use a magic pet to try and counter the aquatic damage of the hermit crab. I can't use big hits to kill the Anomalus quickly because of the magic racial, and if I rely on multiple hit attacks like Flurry, I'm either not fast enough to attack first against Hermit Crab, or I don't have enough power in the stat budget to kill Anomalus quickly.

If I bring a flying pet to counter the Hermit Crab the Anomali will destroy it. I am yet to find a pet that sufficiently counters the two Anomali. Is there something I am missing? Or do I just need to wait until the Hermit Crab is nerfed? I haven't seen any signh that Anomalus is getting nerfed, so once the crab is hit I might just start facing 3 Anomali.

wrote on 2020-09-10 12:16:04

well just use two sandstorms so you can counter both anomalus. qiraji guardling as your opener to change the weather as soon as they use fumes and when they swap to the second anomalus bring in the other sandstorm pet. as long as you can keep sandstorm up you can't lose

also right now the bronze whelpling is one of my favourite pets to counter anomalus right at the start of the match (edited)

wrote on 2020-09-10 19:10:38

Disco has also featured DAH and Flayer Youngling as useful counters in the Anomalus meta.

Edit: from Disco's site http://pvppetbattles.com/multi-attack-probability-tree/

Pets that allow Anomalus zero attacks:
SBH 0.06%

Pets that allow Anomalus only one attack:
Bronze Whelpling 100%
Crystal Spider 100%
Whomper 100%
SBH 61.28%
Flayer Youngling 26.64%

Pets that allow Anomalus only two attacks:
SBH 100%
Flayer Youngling 100%
Mongoose Pup 100%
Dandelion Frolicker 100%

(edited)

Tirpack wrote on 2020-06-28 12:15:28

hey guys, quick question about your sample teams. What's the reason you use "low" tier pets for these despite your pvp tier list listing several higher tier pets for the same role? (for example your clonedance team has blighthawk, the lowest cloner on your list, instead of for example shore butterfly, the highest. Same for Sandstorm with living sandling over qiraji guardling or anubisath idol).

Is this just for variety? Or as "budget" alternatives for people who don't have the other pets yet, etc.?

Thanks in advance for the reply :)

wrote on 2020-06-28 20:02:31

There are several teams shown for each type. You can see them by hovering over the tab at the right. In Clone Dance, Blighthawk is used in the first team, but Shore Butterfly in the second, and Infinite Hatchlin in the third.

And the second team in Sandstorm uses a Qiraji.

Tirpack wrote on 2020-06-28 20:46:20

wow, im an absolute idiot, I just now saw the alternatives option... thanks a lot mate!

wrote on 2020-06-28 21:10:51

I didn't find that when it was first introduced either, and it took me a while before hovering over the tab felt natural, so don't worry about it. :)

wrote on 2020-06-29 11:06:46

Making a good team is slightly more than putting all the highest tier pets together as there is often coverage or counters you need to consider. Generally you don't need a team of the highest tier pets to do well either. There are some players that do and exclusively use the same strongest pets but all are fairly easy to play around once you know their team.

Tirpack wrote on 2020-06-30 18:28:27

nono, I know that of course, I was just confused because I didn't see there are multiple versions for each archetype, so I just assumed that the "one" sample team they show would include a top tier version to kind of give people a "goal" to work towards. Was just all a big misunderstanding from my side :P