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vs. Arène de poche : Tiffany Nelson

Stratégie proposée par Mutanis

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Cliquez sur le bouton pour copier ce script dans votre presse-papier :

change(#2) [round=2]
change(#1) [self(#3).played]
use(Reaping Hook:2469)
use(Flame Breath:501) [round=3 & enemy(#1).dead]
use(Time Bomb:602)
use(Armageddon:1025)
use(Claw:429)
change(#3)
Arène de poche : Tiffany Nelson 97804
Special or not:0Special or not:1102324818363832480

Talents : 1 * 2
Breed: Tous

Ichabod
Cette mascotte peut avoir les breeds suivants:

Breed Vie Puissance Vitesse
HH 1827 264 236


Special or not:0Special or not:1122426120863742610

Talents : 1 2 2
Breed: Tous

Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Cette mascotte peut avoir les breeds suivants:

Breed Vie Puissance Vitesse
BB 1481 276 276


2 ZL 1 0

N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+

Beaucoup d'XP
Au moins une mascotte de cette stratégie doit être d'un breed spécifique
Toutes les stratégies ne sont pas infaillibles. Celle-ci est l'une d'entre elles. Vous aurez peut-être besoin de recommencer le combat, si l'aléatoire n'est pas en votre faveur !
Cette stratégie utilise des mascottes provenant du jeu de cartes à collectionner WoW (TCG) ou du marché noir pour des sommes conséquentes de PO.
Cette stratégie utilise des mascottes provenant de la boutique en jeu WoW, achetables via de l'argent réél.
Niveau 1+
Vous pouvez utiliser cette stratégie pour XP une mascotte de bas niveau.
Certaines instructions sont plus difficiles à suivre que d'autres. C'est ce que vous pourrez trouver dans cette stratégie !
Script
Cette stratégie propose un TD script pouvant être utilisé avec l'addon du même nom. Vous pouvez copier le script dans votre presse-papier en cliquant sur le bouton à gauche des mascottes.
Au moins une des mascottes ne peut plus être obtenue aujourd'hui. Si vous l'avez, félicitations !
Un membre de l'équipe a trouvé cette stratégie particulièrement efficace et l'a mise en avant avec ce tag.
In Dragonflight Patch 10.2, the ability Time Bomb has been changed. This tag is marking strategies using Time Bomb so they can be reviewed.
Durée: 0:54
Cette durée a été mesurée par un membre de l'équipe. Elle peut varier, mais est plutôt fiable, surtout en utilisant TDScript.
Rounds: 7-8
The number of rounds for this fight were added by a strategy curator. This number is usually very reliable.
Ce tableau indique l'xp obtenue pour un combat avec deux mascotte niveaux 25 et une mascotte à xp.
XP partielle non prise en compte

Avant Après Gain xp
1135981
2136353
3146683
4146971
5147219
6157425
7157590
8167714
9167796
10177838
11177838
12187796
13197714
14197590
15207425
16207219
17216971
18226683
19226353
20235981
21235569
22245115
23253900
24251980

Chapeau de safari

Friandise inférieure

Friandise

Haut-de-forme sombrelune

Événement semaine bonus

















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Passage niveau 25 avec perte d'xp minimale

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XP au-delà du niveau 25 en surplus

Détails de la stratégie
54 Sec
Cette durée a été mesurée par un membre de l'équipe. Elle peut varier, mais est plutôt fiable, surtout en utilisant TDScript.
7-8
The number of rounds for this fight were added by a strategy curator. This number is usually very reliable.
N/A
Pet Sim does not have an enemy fight logic for this encounter, yet. Winrates cannot be calculated until the fight has been mapped.
2023-11-20 18:50:18
Date de dernière mise à jour de la stratégie.
2022-12-03 09:08:25
Date de création de la stratégie.
49,838
Nombre de vues. Indique combien de fois cette stratégie a été vue par les visiteurs du site.
Détails du dompteur
Dalaran:Broken Isles 28.3 23.4 (TomTom / Map Pin)
Beaucoup d'XP
Tour 1

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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The following strings are auto-translated if you enter them in the defined format. It is recommended to use them where possible:
[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 2

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
(Tour 3)
(use Souffle de flammes if Laguigne is dead) (it's just a 5% chance that it happens)

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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The following strings are auto-translated if you enter them in the defined format. It is recommended to use them where possible:
[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 1

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
Important: Please enter your instructions in English or a large parts of the community will not be able to read them.
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The following strings are auto-translated if you enter them in the defined format. It is recommended to use them where possible:
[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 2

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Bring in your Level Pet

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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The following strings are auto-translated if you enter them in the defined format. It is recommended to use them where possible:
[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 3
Swap to your Ichabod

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 4
Crochet ravageur (Guimauve dies and Fusée comes in)

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won
Tour 5

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Ichabod
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
N'importe quelle mascotte de niveau 1+
Pass
Bring in your Ichabod
Bring in your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Bring in your Level Pet
Swap to your Ichabod
Swap to your Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Swap to your Level Pet
Laguigne comes in
Fusée comes in
Guimauve comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Ichabod
Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne
Level Pet
Griffe
Crochet ravageur
Souffle de flammes
Bombe à retardement
Armageddon
Guimauve
Fusée
Laguigne
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[ability=123:Spellname] - [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] - [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [pet=123:Petname] dies
[ability=123:Name] until [enemy=123:Enemyname] dies
Swap back to [pet=123:Petname]
[ability=123:Name] until the fight is won

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sligga#2410

rédigé le 2023-11-20 13:25:42

I've used this strat a ton.. Used to work flawlessly. Now in 10.2 Rocket (her last pet) always gets off a cyclone without a crit. Not sure if something has changed

Gráinne

rédigé le 2023-11-20 13:55:19

Time Bomb was changed recently. It was always supposed to stun for one round, but stunned for two since its release. That was fixed in 10.2.

I don't have Ichabod to test myself, but knowing Mutanis, I expect this will be checked thoroughly. :)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-11-20 16:35:40

The beauty of the strat pre 10.2 is you never had to bandage Ichabod through 6 fights cycling thru 3 TMDs and 3 Obsidian Warwhelps.

It is true that now with the Time Bomb change, we are left with 2 options without digging deep into the strat.
1) TMD, as sligga#2410 says, we will have to deal with 1 round of cyclone if Time Bomb does not crit. The other option...
2) Obsidian Warwhelp is a good way to avoid Cyclone. Unfortunately, if Reaping Hook, crits and kills the first pet, Time Bomb does not get the dragonkin racial later and you get even more cyclone. With Ichabod not needing healed in between, a restart might be a good idea with a Turn 1 Reaping Hook crit.

I wish I were home to test this. Either way, Mutanis is better at this unconscious than I while fully sober.

(OP) Mutanis

rédigé le 2023-11-20 23:26:44

Great suggestion by Kalagren :) I replaced Petit dragon mécanique intemporel with Dragonnet de guerre d'obsidienne. To get the dragon racial you have to use Souffle de flammes on Turn 3 (only if Jinx is already dead) (edited)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-11-21 11:43:29

Flame breath.... Much much better than a restart XD.

Goldimon rédigé le 2023-01-17 13:22:13

I suggest to include
use(Screeching Gears:754) [round=7]
If that crits, you save 1 round at the end, while if claw crits and is a low roll, you dont save a round.

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2023-01-17 23:36:44

I do this BUT I didn't add the round 7 part just add SG under the RH:

change(#2) [round=2]
change(#1) [self(#3).played]
use(Schlitzender Haken:2469)
use(Screeching Gears:754)
use(Klaue:429)
use(Zeitbombe:602)
use(Armageddon:1025)
change(#3)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-06-22 00:15:27

A good suggestion. This is something I had adapted for this very reason.

Let's look at the math:

Damage range on Ichabod's Claw vs Flying =80. Crits only fall on the upper half of this range - source. Crits thus have a range of 40. The minimum crit roll 295 which is just 3 health less than what Rocket typically has after Time Bomb detonation. If my understanding of this is correct, the next potential crit roll is still non-lethal damage at 297. The next possible crit roll is 300. Two of these 40 values will not be lethal. However, as the source suggests, damage ranges use a roll of 3 using the highest roll of the 3 to produce values away from the average. With Crits always being a positive result, all 3 rolls on the scale of 1 - 40, all 3 values will have to be 2 or less.

The math on this suggests this will happen 1 in 320,000 battles.
1 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 20

I will keep using Screeching gears >.< (edited)

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2023-06-22 06:42:23

I read this and it really switched on my brain. I love math :)
How did you come up with the 1 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 20?

I had a spreadsheet I used to use with the math auto inputted and I just had to change a few figures to get my results. If I could come up with a formula would save me a tonne of time!

Edit:Also on Owlcal for claw at 264 power, shows the minimum crit roll as 294. Which is weird because I presumed the value for calculating a crit when damage is weak was (*2/3)*1.5 but that was different so I trust the computers math on this (Presume it has something to do with the way blizzard truncates values) (edited)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-06-22 12:34:21

So the chances increase of not ending the battle with a crit with that info.

Math reasoning:
Range values use 3 rolls taking the highest result to net a result far from average (whether the result is positive or negative - crits are always positive).

Chance of crit 1 × 20, range was determined to be 40 or the positive half of the range. With 2 results (1 and 2) falling in this range, it put the result for each of the 3 at near 1 x 20. 1 crit × 3 rolls = 1 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 20. With the corrected result. It appears 3 numbers might appear to fall on the range of 40. I would have to sit down and study this further.

(OP) Mutanis

rédigé le 2023-07-14 14:09:56

I will test the strategy next time when the tamer is up.
Yes, critical variance damage is always positive.
Blizz uses a weak family factor of 0.66 instead of 2/3. I have done a lot of reverse engineering and have found that Blizz is very inconsistent with numbers. Aside from floating point issues, rounding and truncation are both used.
If you wish to simulate critical variance strikes you can do it here:variance (long loading time)
Data Claw: 157 ... 236 (weak damage and power = 264) (edited)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-07-14 16:58:40

Thanks for this, the tendency towards the extremes for range values is more exaggerated than I had considered.

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2023-07-18 15:26:34

Very nice calculator, the work youdo is amazing!, I should have seen it sooner as it's what I was trying to do; I literally just rebuilt one using excel and the data from a blog (Kalagren linked it above) cause I was off work sick the other week.

I'm in Germany at the moment so don't have access to it but I can't wait until I get back to Aus and use this more!

(OP) Mutanis

rédigé le 2023-07-19 08:36:09

thanks :)

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-08-07 00:02:12

All of this theorycrafting might be for fun. Obsidian Warwhelp will give a 7 turn battle at a 95% rate. The remaining 5% is from the first Reaping Hook critting and killing Jinx preventing Armageddon from giving the dragon racial for Time Bomb later. (edited)

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2023-08-10 06:17:54

If that happens will you still win, just taking longer?

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-08-10 08:29:00

Yes, 1 in 20 battles takes 10 or 11 turns instead of 7 or 8.

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2023-08-11 04:13:00

Tough one. 5% chance for an extra xx seconds OR x seconds quicker 95% of the time :p

Kalagren

rédigé le 2023-10-06 00:23:14

Another added benefit of having OWW and TMD, Ichabod doesn't need healed in between. If you have multiples of each pet, even better.

Elfery

rédigé le 2023-09-17 01:40:00

incredible strat!

keefsey

rédigé le 2023-09-17 00:44:59

Wonderful!

Wowmusicable

rédigé le 2023-09-16 16:52:54

OMG, what a great strategy! Fast and so easy!

Kalagren

rédigé le 2022-12-25 16:45:19

Perfect!

Ssparkles

rédigé le 2022-12-10 04:48:35

Worth getting Ichabod for

WhyDaRumGone

rédigé le 2022-12-09 16:32:42

Wholey Moley this is quick!

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