Xu-Fu Strategy vs. 속삭이는 판데런 영혼

Anike#2252

글 올리기 2024-10-18 13:31:40

Just failed two times in a row :-( TWW 11.0.2.
H/H Chrominius and P/S Nexus Whelpling

GhostDragon#152510

글 올리기 2024-11-24 06:55:25

worked fine for me. 11/24/24

Lenara

글 올리기 2024-05-15 08:28:45

still works great! DF 10.2

Smithbob

글 올리기 2023-01-06 18:10:36

just tried it and it work great!

글 올리기 2023-01-01 18:43:59

Sadly this needs to be marked RNG now

글 올리기 2023-01-01 19:06:23

Why? If you have en experience of failure, please specify how it failed. I did a round of Pandaria a couple weeks ago, and I would have used this, since it's my standard strat, and I know it didn't fail, because I would have remembered that.

With this battle, you can get absolutely putrid RNG with ths stuns. It's possible, but very rare. And even so, I don't reall it ever failing. And neither Chrominius' nor Nexus' abilities have veeb nerfed in DF, so if something has actually changed, what is it?

글 올리기 2023-01-05 01:37:30

I had this fail 3 times in a row. I have a HH Chrominius and a PS and PP Nexus. I reran it (PS Nexus) and it did work this time. I will rerun it until I have the same result I did previously so I can describe it better. It is possible it happened on the PP Nexus. This was my go-to until this last expansion, and I had to reinstall mods and set up all my fights, so there is a possibility that my previous non-RNG fights were PP and the failures were PS. I'll keep trying until I can re-create the failure I experienced. (edited)

글 올리기 2023-01-05 02:13:34

Thank you for the response! If it does happen again, please do explain how, but I suspect it will be a 1ong time before the next failure,

글 올리기 2023-01-06 03:28:20

So, long long long story and many times of me canceling the battle before the end, I have figured it out. Dusty gets lucky on moth balls, causing Chrominius to have lower health when Whispertail comes in. Then, IF Wildwinds crits on Chrominius, Chrominus dies. The remaining two pets squeak by with enough health to not die immediately to a PS Nexus Whelping, then manage to kill the Nexus and any poor sad leveling pet sitting nearby.

I cannot imagine how I had this bad luck 3 times in a row, but this last time it DID take me a long time to recreate the bad fight. PP Nexus Whelping did not have the issue, as far as I could tell but my bandages were getting sparse.

So, I retract my RNG statement, but it can happen if you have the worst luck in the ENTIRE world.

(edit to add: thanks for this! I've never rooted for my pets to fail before but now I can come back to this strat with my PP Nexus for a little extra insurance) (edited)

글 올리기 2023-01-06 05:46:46

Thanks for the reply. Also, congratulations! you've just taken your first steps towards analysing a battle. :)

Crits are a 5% chance. 1/20. A great many strats are vulnerable to two crits in the wrong place. This amounts to something like a 1-in-400 event (though complicated by the specifics of the battle). Not something any individual sees often. But players overall do tens of thousands - maybe hundreds of thousands - of battles per day, so every so often someone who has never seen a failure hits one, and thinks that something has gone wrong or changed with a strat. And posts that opinion here. :P

The lesson to take away is that RNG is EVERYWHERE. You just don't see the worst of it much personally. :)

CharlyCat 글 올리기 2023-01-03 17:24:47

Works every time, tho if Chromie gets put to sleep, I do start over.

글 올리기 2023-01-03 18:02:49

There is no need to restart, in my experience. Chrominius is a huge lake of health, and especially with the heals survives plenty well.

CharlyCat 글 올리기 2023-01-04 16:11:29

You’re right. I let it run just now and I just had to concentrate more. LOL. Still worked fine. :)

Sadeeva

글 올리기 2022-10-17 21:07:04

I just cant get this to work. Constantly puts Chromious to sleep. So 2 weeks later of it not working without 3 or 4 tries. I am now using Stormbourne whelmpling and NExus whelpling. Tail sweep, Arcane storm, Mana surge, for both. I can skip Arcane Storm on Nexus and straight to Mana surge. Has worked for 3 days so far. Not sure what is the problem and why Chromious is getting hit with sleep so much .

Entelligente

글 올리기 2022-10-15 11:35:20

This almost worked too well for me, if I had not manually swapped in my level pet Chrominius would have soloed the fight as I got lucky with Moth Dust and Moth Balls. Maybe add a line to the TD script to just pass if Chrominius is still alive when only one enemy pet is left.

SilkCharm

글 올리기 2022-02-23 20:22:23

2022 - 2nd day of ZM Shadowlands. Worked perfectly. Thank you!

Gremlin64#1527

글 올리기 2021-10-25 07:50:20

Worked fine for me

Mykaela

글 올리기 2021-06-30 08:58:43

In 9.1 it appears they have nerfed Chrominus's abilities. You can no longer attack during Dusty's blackout'd sequence. I'm not sure what can be done for this, or if anyone else has had better luck with this and can offer suggestions.

Serenajb#2840

글 올리기 2021-07-02 09:21:55

No longer works for me.

Hieronymous

글 올리기 2021-07-02 13:02:36

Moth Balls 25% chance to sleep is the new 100%

GrumpyKitten#19831

글 올리기 2021-07-03 02:59:41

since 9.1 wont work for me

Grevenilvec

글 올리기 2021-07-03 13:46:17

I usually get a 50% success. First attempt fails, send works, but it takes a long time

Remte

글 올리기 2021-07-07 11:25:42

It was an engine bug that made it into patch 9.1 and has been fixed, the mechanic should now work properly.

EDIT: Unfortunately it still happens to several people. Sorry for any confusion caused! (edited)

Ale

글 올리기 2021-07-07 18:37:27

This ain't working even after "fixed" when my chrominius is at round 8, both pets do not do anything

Remte

글 올리기 2021-07-08 14:41:28

Yeah, now it seems it varies from person to person :(

Digem#1671

글 올리기 2021-07-08 16:36:12

this isnt working as in round 8 both pets do nothing is there a fix?

Ale

글 올리기 2021-07-06 20:21:05

9.1 sometimes the first pet doesn't attack seems like is bugged

Theralon 글 올리기 2021-06-12 09:27:39

My Chromie outroight soloed the entire team before he could die, using this method

VanyaMia

글 올리기 2021-05-21 07:32:45

Every damn Moth Balls stunned my Chrominus and it still worked. :D

BangTango

글 올리기 2021-02-20 16:08:13

totes worked , but i forgot to swap in my lvling pet OOf !

Hutchette

글 올리기 2020-12-12 16:08:10

Worked for me as of 12/12/2020. Chrominius solo'd the whole fight.

Okutane#1583

글 올리기 2020-10-20 10:17:43

It worked on 2nd try.

Kylarra

글 올리기 2020-10-15 10:06:32

tried it post SL pre-patch and it still works

Ivaelia

글 올리기 2020-10-15 14:05:23

Same for me

Dakender#1566

글 올리기 2020-09-06 11:48:35

Not Owner of strat but did test in Beta: Works just fine as it is.

GaryWindrunner

글 올리기 2020-05-13 00:47:52

Mana surge can get interrupted or not finish the fight. Need to add a use(#1) above standby in the script so you don't just pass instead of winning.

JestersTear

글 올리기 2018-12-28 02:33:19

If Chrominus can't finish off Dusty because of too many successful stuns, restart unless your level pet is good against the Pandaren Air Spirit.

Blowmyarrow 글 올리기 2017-06-13 03:23:49

This is still soloable with Emerald Proto-Whelp (2 2 2). One of the best fight if You want to lvl up 2 lowlvl pets! ;)

Akachira 글 올리기 2017-06-13 12:42:19

Thanks for the tip! Worked perfect!

wrendarla

글 올리기 2018-10-19 23:20:52

Please could you elaborate on when to swap the levelling pets in?

iriatum 글 올리기 2018-06-02 00:57:41

[Azure Whelpling] instead of [Nexus Whelpling] and just one shot each of last 2 pets using Claw

Hyattmeister

글 올리기 2018-09-23 00:52:56

What do you think Mana Surge does?

글 올리기 2018-09-24 11:26:25

Might be useful information for people who do not have a [Nexus Whelpling]

Hyattmeister

글 올리기 2018-09-25 11:02:41

True, but the Azure Whelpling is little bit more rare and harder to come by I would think.

Ilyssa 글 올리기 2017-11-19 06:53:53

I altered this strategy a bit. My team is:

- Leveling pet (min level 15)
- Chrominius (2, 2, 2)
- Darkmoon Zeppelin (1, 2, 1)

I start off with the leveling pet, which will get stunned. Then I swap in Chrominius, who kills the first two pets: the first one with Arcane Explosion and the second one swiftly with Surge of Power. After Chrominius is killed, Darkmoon Zeppelin quickly finishes off the last one with Thunderbolt and Explosion. The leveling pet will get all the experience.

TD script:

change(#2) [round>1]
ability(Surge of Power) [enemy(#2).active & enemy.hp<=740]
if [ enemy(#3).active & enemy.hp<=618 ]
change(3#)
ability(Explode)
endif
ability(Ancient Blessing)
ability(Thunderbolt)
ability(#1)
standby
change(#3)

Eekwibble

글 올리기 2018-03-12 10:39:19

There's no point putting the pet in first if you're using Explode. You can easily out-heal Dusty's damage early on, even with a stun. It's if it stuns you twice later on that you can be forced to reset.
With that in mind, I took the liberty of rewriting your script with the carry pet in slot 3.

quit [ self(#1).dead & enemy(#1).active ]
quit [ self(#1).dead & enemy(#2).active ]
standby [ self.aura(Asleep:498).exists ]
ability(#2) [ enemy(#1).active ]
ability(#1) [ enemy(#1).active ]
ability(#3) [ enemy(#2).hp<741 ]
ability(#3) [ enemy(#3).active ]
ability(#2)
ability(#1)
change(#2)

katiefraggle

글 올리기 2018-04-07 13:30:00

This is my fav strat for this so far. and the TD scrip compensates well for Chromy being put to sleep if it happens. which it can. Very nice ty. =)

Eekwibble

글 올리기 2018-08-13 10:16:16

Slightly bulkier but more reasoned script:

quit [ self(#1).dead & enemy(#1).active ]
quit [ self(#1).dead & enemy(#2).active ]
ability(Ancient Blessing:611) [ enemy(#1).active ]
ability(Surge of Power:593) [ enemy(#2).active ]
ability(Arcane Explosion:299)
ability(Explode:282) [ enemy.hp<669 ]
ability(Thunderbolt:779)
change(#2) [ self(#1).dead ]
standby

Hobbyhorse 글 올리기 2017-06-30 11:10:30

I did put Chrominius in slot 1 and a level 1 pet in slot 2. It works great.
I did do the suggestion abow. Please comment if this did not work for you!
Btw. Chrominus get stunned 3 times.

Chrominius - Level 1 Pet - Nexus Whelpling
TD Script:
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
standby [self.aura(Asleep:498).exists]
ability(Ancient Blessing:611)
ability(Arcane Explosion:299)
ability(Arcane Storm:589)
ability(Mana Surge:489)
change(#2)

Anonymous 글 올리기 2017-07-07 17:16:34

Flawless

Prudentius 글 올리기 2017-08-10 20:08:22

This strat and TD Script should be modified to reflect the changes Hobbyhorse has made. They make this pet comp far more useful for pet leveling and removes any risk your leveling pet might die.

글 올리기 2017-08-17 03:57:07

Done! Thank you :)

Licentious 글 올리기 2017-08-18 12:17:09

Why pass on the first 2 turns with the modified strat? It doesn't seem necessary. Thanks for updating it to use a level 1, though!

글 올리기 2017-08-21 10:10:59

Good point, I fixed that, thank you!

Hobbyhorse

글 올리기 2017-12-05 16:41:50

The Pass is from the old strategy where leveling up pet did stand in slot 1.
New strategy is not uptodate.

Turns 1+ : Ancient Blessing on cooldowns else Arcane Explosion to until Chrominius dies.
Pass if you are stunned.
Rest as suggested above.

글 올리기 2017-12-06 03:14:31

Fixed!

Optimusbeef 글 올리기 2017-11-15 18:22:35

You can use the Stormborne Whelpling if you don't have a Nexus Whelpling. It has Mana Surge and Arcane Storm. The main strat with a level 1 in the middle slot and the Stormborne Whelpling worked perfectly the first time.

Anonymous 글 올리기 2017-10-13 12:15:05

Very much depends on how often you get sleeped and how often he hits you with Moth Balls. If you get sleeped 3 times, you're fucked

Jessica 글 올리기 2017-10-14 08:28:52

I was put to sleep 5 times and I was fine.

Hobbyhorse

글 올리기 2017-11-14 13:05:17

It's true! There is some random elements in this battle, but it is still a very good strategy!

Ralthor 글 올리기 2017-06-03 11:54:31

tdscript:

standby [round=1]
change(#2) [round=2]
change(#3) [self(#2).dead]
ability(Ancient Blessing)
ability(Arcane Explosion)
ability(Arcane Storm)
ability(Mana Surge)
standby

Krazzie 글 올리기 2017-06-08 07:39:55

Need to add in standby [self(Chrominius).aura(Asleep).exists] after the change(#3) line just in case Chrominius is stunned. Otherwise thanks for the script :)

ßenehime 글 올리기 2017-06-12 03:15:17

It shouldn't need that standby, because he has the standby command at the end, and that will only be used if he cant use the other move, which only happens if it is asleep. So it works fine.

Hobbyhorse 글 올리기 2017-06-18 08:29:14

For those who want to learn, this is another way to write TD Script for this pet battle.

standby [ round = 1 ]
change(#2)
standby [ self.aura(Asleep).exists ]
ability(Arcane Storm)
ability(#2)
ability(Arcane Explosion)
change(#3)

Hobbyhorse 글 올리기 2017-06-27 16:53:14

If you use tdBattlePetScript - Script Editor, it now has an AutoComplete
system with speel name and numbers.

standby [round=1]
change(#2)
standby [self.aura(Asleep:498).exists]
ability(Arcane Storm:589)
ability(#2)
ability(Arcane Explosion:299)
change(#3)

글 올리기 2016-02-27 20:07:05

Hey everyone!
Thanks for the feedback. There were indeed too many random factors in this strategy. I changed it around while using the same pets. You can only bring a level 10 or older pet along with this one, but the strategy is now completely risk free :-)

Susie 글 올리기 2016-11-04 10:30:38

If your levelling pet is mechanical, you can bring a level 1. they only get hit once :)

Tim 글 올리기 2016-11-04 19:18:37

Can also use a magic pet.

Muqaddisa 글 올리기 2017-01-08 07:29:47

Level 10 Spawn of G'nathus got one shot on my first try, so it's a bit of an RNG if you have an aquatic in the leveling spot.

Tyrsa 글 올리기 2017-05-20 13:10:39

I've been successful with a level 6 level pet. Just need ~400 hp, and you'll know right away if it survives so not a huge deal to restart if the level pet dies.

Anonymous 글 올리기 2016-11-28 03:14:20

Personally, use 2 x Nexus Whelp w/ 1/2/2, a bit of flexibility on turn counts, but much faster finish, nexus whelp + stormborne whelp would also work

Ben 글 올리기 2017-03-20 15:23:07

Me too. I don't like 5 min pet battles

adigitalgirl 글 올리기 2017-05-01 11:35:42

Definitely recommend this combo, super fast and reliable.

Macgam 글 올리기 2017-01-04 16:09:17

Seem to only make halfway into 2nd pet. NW tail cleans up real well for me.

Coonga 글 올리기 2017-03-18 18:03:12

I can second this. Same thing happened to me, tail swept second pet once and finished him off then tail swept final pet to finish him off!

Anonymous 글 올리기 2016-11-08 11:14:13

Akasut 글 올리기 2016-11-08 11:00:44

My variation of this strategy is Heal+AoE until Chrom dies on 2nd pet. Switcheroo lvl1 pet into Proto-Whelp PP for cleanup. Many other choices for cleanup as well.

Daedrynn 글 올리기 2016-10-10 06:48:26

This strat is brilliant!! I have never used Chrominius like this. It was so fun to watch him mow down all three enemies at the same time. I was giggling maniacally through the whole fight. Thanks for all your hard work!!

Orpho 글 올리기 2016-08-16 19:46:05

Wow. I've only ever used Chrominius for a Howl bomb. Ancient blessing tanking like this is hilarious! Thanks for the strat.

Zaymaa 글 올리기 2016-02-26 23:58:56

I've tried five times in a row already...and doesn't work. Kept getting stunned on first rounds...then I would resign and start over. The other times, Chrom would always die before getting to Surge.

Marabela 글 올리기 2016-02-19 19:00:14

Had quite a bit of trouble today with this myself, previously no trouble at all (but I lvled always lvl 1 pets onwards). I tried at least 5 or 6 rounds and my chrominius always died before he could cast either bite or surge of power on the spirit. I had a lvl18 pet as the "lvl pet". But then I switched to lvl 1 pet, and the fight went well, even my whelpling was alive.
P.s. Awesome guides and page ^,^ Thank you for everything.

Fittstim 글 올리기 2016-02-16 03:18:11

This strat doesn't work for me. I tried it three times in a row and Chrominius always dies before the "Bite" (turn four vs Pandaren Air Spirit). I would also suggest not wasting the Mana Surge on Turn two vs Dusty since Dusty always is in a cocoon. Use Tail Sweep and follow up with Mana Surge on Turn three.

Hyasur 글 올리기 2018-08-04 04:16:16

In der ersten Runde würd ich stets Arkane Explosion auswählen, damit dann in der 2. Runde uralter Segen passend zum Kokon-Schlag von Staubi gewählt wird - Arkane Explosion würde dort ohnehin nicht "treffen". Macht den Kampf ingesamt etwas kürzer.

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TDPetBattle-Script 글 올리기 2017-06-13 17:33:39

standby [self.round=1]
change(#2)
ability(611)
ability(299)
standby [self(#2).active]
change(#3)
ability(589)
ability(489)

Ricardo 글 올리기 2018-01-21 03:35:56

Excelente estrategia. El lugar del Vástago de El Nexo, uso el Zepelín o el Dragonizo pandaren mecánico con la habilidad de Explotar, de forma que no necesite sacar a la mascota de nivel 1.

straz 글 올리기 2018-06-19 12:55:28

Prenez dragon féerique du néant et jeune fée flécheuteuse ( les deux avec Déflagration des arcanes - Echange de vie - Eclat lunaire) 2-2-1 et une 3eme mascotte non utilisée.
Commencez par eclat lunaire puis Déflagration en chaine. Utiliser echange de vie quand vous voulez, et remettez eclat lunaire puis deflagration. une des deux première mascotte va mourrir et le combat se fini vite.

Okin 글 올리기 2018-04-09 11:56:10

[Dragonnet né-des-tempêtes] 1 2 2 remplace Nexus

Hythiel 글 올리기 2017-09-15 16:07:42

Pourquoi passer au premier tour ? La première attaque de Poudreux n'a que 25 % de chance d'endormir notre mascotte. Je préfère lancer une explosion des arcanes des le premier tour. Si ça passe, c'est toujours ça de pris.

Swanee 글 올리기 2017-05-16 03:13:03

Testé hier soir, impeccable, merci !!

Kyrylo#21698

글 올리기 2025-01-28 19:38:43

2025 год, все работает

Putin-XyuLo

글 올리기 2022-07-24 21:15:23

Сработало со скриптом. Мб повезло, по Хроминию не все попало.
change(#2) [self(#1).active & self.dead]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
use(Ancient Blessing:611)
use(Arcane Explosion:299)
use(Arcane Storm:589)
use(Mana Surge:489)
standby

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Sandy45 글 올리기 2021-02-12 11:24:15

Не работает совсем. Хроминий дохнет и все.

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andrei_gus

글 올리기 2018-09-22 13:58:27

3 раза попробовал - не работает (Дикий рандом - критует слабыми ударами и станит через раз). Процентов 75 вероятность успеха, для меня по-крайней мере.
(edited)

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ii 글 올리기 2017-05-23 13:23:02

Вставьте, пожалуйста, между "Выберите питомца, которого прокачиваете." и "Переключитесь на своего питомца Хроминий" пропустите ход )))

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Lea 글 올리기 2017-05-27 02:37:07

Спасибо, всё исправлено.

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Anonymous 글 올리기 2017-10-11 11:36:00

ничего не исправлено, корявый перевод

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