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vs. Threads of Fate

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Threads of Fate 105779
Special or not:0Special or not:122216629314316620

Skills: 2 2 2
Breed: Any

Cinder Pup
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
PP 1237 341 276


Special or not:0Special or not:411019271725419270

Skills: 1 1 *
Breed: Any

Ash'ana
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
PS 1400 305 273


>1399

>304

Special or not:0Special or not:1211197711578719770

Skills: 2 1 1
Breed: Any

Bloodgazer Hatchling
This pet can have the following breeds:

Breed Health Power Speed
PS 1400 289 289


Substitutes:

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Bloodgazer Team Rumble

Strategy tested and passed: January 9th 2019, no changes made

At least one of the pets for this strategy require the use of a specific breed.
Not every strategy can be bullet proof. This is one of them. You might have to restart it, since there are some random elements that increase the risk of your pets failing. Don't blame them, please!
This strategy is using pets obtainable from the Wow Trading Card Game (TCG) or the auction house for potentially high sums of gold.
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You can use this strategy to carry a low level pet to give it experience.
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Time: 2:03
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Rounds: 19
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Strategy Details
2 Min 3 Sec
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19
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N/A
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2017-03-05 02:05:01
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2017-03-05 02:05:01
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Tamer Details
Suramar 33.6 83.2 (TomTom / Map Pin)
Unknown
No info is available about the experience gain of this fight, yet. If you know the exact values for this fight and want to contribute, please contact Aranesh.
Turn 1

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 2

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 3-5

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 6

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 7
Flame Breath or Pass if stunned

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 8+9

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 10

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Bring in Ash'ana

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 11

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 12
Claw or Pass if stunned

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 13

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  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 14

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 15

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 16
Claw or Pass if stunned

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 17
Ash'ana dies

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition
Turn 18+

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Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition

For the best display of your strategy, please follow these guidelines:

  • Use QuickFill elements where possible
  • Enter custom instructions in English
  • Check the Strategy Creation Guide for more info
Cinder Pup
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Ash'ana
Claw
Rake
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Pass
Bring in your Cinder Pup
Bring in your Ash'ana
Bring in your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Swap to your Cinder Pup
Swap to your Ash'ana
Swap to your Bloodgazer Hatchling
Eye of Inquisition comes in
Eye of Interrogation comes in
Eye of Impetration comes in
An enemy pet comes in
Any standard attack will finish the fight
 
Cinder Pup
Ash'ana
Bloodgazer Hatchling
Flame Breath
Crouch
Howl
Claw
Rake
Savage Talon
Falcosaur Swarm!
Predatory Strike
Eye of Impetration
Eye of Interrogation
Eye of Inquisition

No one expects the Eye of Interrogation!




Gwenllian wrote on 2017-12-23 19:59:10

I didn't have these pets leveled, so I used 2 Zandalari Anklerenders with Black Claw, Leap and Hunting Party. Kept Black Claw up, Hunting Party on CD and Leap to fill.

Kaldur#2200

wrote on 2021-01-07 14:00:50

I can confirm that this still works great.

Epytropos wrote on 2017-07-27 21:12:30

It's possible I'm missing something, but I do have a couple thoughts.

Firstly, using howl+breath instead of just breath reduces the duration of the DoT effect (since its cast 1 turn later) and makes criticals worthless (since the magic trait means you can do at most 600 dmg, roughly the crit on an un-howled breath).

Secondly, the Ash'ana seems like a strange choice given that it's a relatively rare pet and lacks Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling's resistance to magic dmg.

After a few failed attempts with this one (heart of the RNG cards not on my side) I made those two changes and had a much easier time.

NOTE: You will want to swap in your bloodgazer for 1 turn after your first pet dies, as the MPD is unlikely to die as well.

Misato#2888

wrote on 2019-10-23 03:13:59

For the quest, you can't use MPD as it needs to be done with Bloodgazer + 2 beast pets.

Jirki88 wrote on 2017-10-11 12:19:08

Infernal Pyreclaw is useful here, with Flame Breath and Scorched Earth.

Gary Hicks wrote on 2017-04-28 11:17:24

[u[Dreadmaw works very well here with Flame Breath > Deep Burn. It makes the battle much easier and without RNG.

Amanda wrote on 2017-07-08 11:56:14

This worked great for me in place of Ash'ana. Thanks!

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