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Welcome to PvP Pet Battling

간단한 정보:

기사 소속:
Aranesh, Rosqo, Shenk

번역:
Ennin, Ratsch#21832

콘텐츠 표:

1. Introduction
2. Call Darkness
3. Traps
4. AoE/Cleave
5. Clone Dance
6. Leeching (Plagued Blood)
7. Toxic Fumes
8. Heal & Stall

최신 업데이트 2022-05-06

Surviving the Meta



1. Introduction


In this part of the PvP section we want to prepare you for the current Meta game that you will face playing against random opponents. Further below is a simple list of some of the most popular and strongest team compositions. We explain their functionality and also name some abilities/pets that these teams are being played with, together with suggestions of how to counter stated strategies.

Furthermore this article serves as a platform to upload your favorite PvP teams for others to discuss about or to help people who find themselves troubled creating good teams on their own. On the left side you can see different categories in which spoken teams can be uploaded.

Please note that different Meta-gameplay can be expected depending on the region you are in. Therefor both lists -the written introduction and the categories of the strategy creation tool- are never considered to be finished and will evolve with the Meta and your suggestions of themes that this article is missing.

We hope that we can make PvP pet battling more attractive to you and we look forward to read your opinions and knowledge for sharing and improving.
-Shenk & Rosqo




Here we will go through the most common strategies and highlighted abilities you will face whilst in the PvP queue and how to set up your teams to counter them.


2. Call Darkness


어둠 소환 is the strongest weather ability bar none. It also has several abilities which synergize extremely well with it: 야밤의 일격, 정령의 일격, 은밀한 공격, 빛의 쇄도, and 일천 주먹의 분노. Most Darkness teams will run at least one flying pet with 어둠 소환 and 야밤의 일격 and the rest with something else that gets buffed by darkness or blinding effects. They are difficult combinations to counter because of the burst nature of the teams.

Common pets: 해골 천둥매, any 야밤의 일격 flier with 292+ speed or 300+ power like 무시무시 꼬마 까마귀, 서리거죽 쥐, 밤그늘 묘목, 유령 까마귀, 황혼냥이, 그림자미호, 위상의 영혼

Counters: Weather Changes (2+), Elementals, Blocks/Deflects/Dodges for the big combo hits, 빛의 쇄도, Beasts with strong magic damage (take less damage from 어둠 소환 and counter the flier e.g. 요술 돼지)








3. Traps


Traps are in theory depending on RNG but in the majority of fights they work pretty reliable. Quite often both 마그마 덫 and 쥐덫 will trigger right away, dealing not few damage and also stunning the affected pet for an entire round. This gives you a huge advantage. Traps are also hard to counter due to their unpredictability and because they trigger when they get removed.

Common pets: 불꽃사냥개, 꼬마 라그나로스, 꼬마 용암 광전사, 활활이, 호기심 많은 새끼 울바르, 치자용수철 개구리

Counters: Critters, Arcane Winds (e.g. 비전 폭풍), Dodge & Block abilities (can still fail) ->Note: dispelling or removing it will trigger the trap!









4. AoE/Cleave


This kind of teams is currently the most popular one for a number of reasons. AoE is easy to play, often very effective, can be tough to beat without a direct counter and you can play it even with very cheap pets. The strength of such a team lies within killing the whole enemy team simultaneously. This can also be used against it, as those players often spam nothing but cleaves, which will struggle against pets that are tanky or have a good self sustain.

Common pets: 역병숨결, 지옥불 화염집게, 황혼의 작은자매, 꼬마 해체자, 꼬마 누더기골렘

Counters: 모래폭풍, Team-Blocks (e.g. 연막탄), Blinding Effects, Reflect/Thorns Effects (e.g. 유리 거미줄), Team Heal, 무력화/냄새나는 액체 병, High Hp Pets




5. Clone Dance


The Clone Dance strategy covers good single target and team-wide damage, which is what makes it so successful. The core idea is to summon a 회오리바람 and then boost it with a buff that increases your hit chance. In most of the cases that's a 폭우의 춤 (hence the name 'Clone Dance).

Common 회오리바람 pets: 역병매, 무한의 새끼운룡, P/P Buzzards or Eagles (e.g. 새끼 왕깃), 해안 나비, 야생 황금 운룡/야생 비취 운룡

Common buff pets: 비취안개 춤꾼, 포다, P/P Toucans (e.g. 핏빛 칼부리), 왕실 공작새, 새끼 모래게

Counters: Debuff Removals, 모래폭풍, Dragons, Blocking or Blinding the 회오리바람, Minefields (unless it's against a 비취안개 춤꾼), any Wave Attacks (e.g. 마그마의 물결)




6. Leeching (Plagued Blood)


Instead of direct healing abilities this strategy relies on applying buffs or debuffs like 오염된 혈액, which will heal the attacker whenever it hits the affected pet. That way a team of badly hurt pets can get back to full or high health in the middle of the match while still dealing damage. However, failing to hit debuffed pets however will negate the purpose of this strategy and lower the chance to win. Therefor often mind games will come into action.

Common pets: 세드의 아들, 루비 물방울, 스컬지 새끼용, 원령의 아들, 유령 구더기, 잔달라 정강이덥썩이

Counters: 어둠 소환, 모래폭풍, Dodge/Block/Blinding for 원령의 손길 or other vampiric abilities with a Cooldown, Reflects (e.g. 맹독 피부)





7. Toxic Fumes


맹독 가스 is the newest weather in patch 8.3. It has two effects; it extends the duration of any damage over time effect by 1 round (the opposite of cleansing rain) and all pets are considered poisoned. This makes it a versatile ability because there are multiple ways to gain value from it. 전염의 일격 and 상처 꿰뚫기 are the only two abilities that are stronger against a poisoned target, but since all pets with these can apply poisons themselve this combo isn't that powerful. The more impactful synergies come from DoTs that used to be balanced by lasting for a short duration and can be extremely potent having one extra round of effect under 맹독 가스. Examples would be 독성 작동규약, 엄청난 독침 or 부식.

Common pets: 아노말루스, 울부짖는 덩굴손, 공허의 자취가 남은 무리바퀴, 악취숨결

Counters: Weather changes (2+, espacially 모래폭풍), Aquatics against DoT teams, Team heals against DoT teams (e.g. 잊을 수 없는 노래), Shields (e.g. 무쇠가죽)

Note that as of 8.3.0 the racial of elemental pets does not work properly for 맹독 가스. For some abilities it works and for others it doesn't (e.g. 상처 꿰뚫기).




8. Heal & Stall


For the most part these are the kind of teams which require little to no skill and are unnecessarily lengthening the match. They are spamming a lot of healing and blocking abilities to either prevent you from dealing any damage or outheal that which you can deal. We really don't want to support this behaviour but since there is a high chance for you to encounter them we're listing them for the sake of coverage. Not every pet that falls in this category is negative for the Meta and on its own can be a good and reasonable pick, but focusing an entire team around that theme is toxic and should be avoided for fair sportsmanship.

Common abilities: 광합성+햇살 combinations (e.g. 하롱하롱 고대정령), 미끼 Spam, anything that uses 소원, Humanoids with 불태우기, 피 빼기 together with 햇살

Counters: 어둠 소환 or other Healing Reduce, Root Effects (e.g. Sticky Goo), Forced Swaps, strong Single Target Hits (e.g. 수압)


logicdropper

글 올리기 2023-09-26 03:40:02

Does anyone have a decent PVP team that consists of super rare pets? I want to play with them and there aren't many I am missing. Just for funzies...has anyone made a cool team with really hard to get pets?

thebl4ckd0g

글 올리기 2023-09-12 00:13:56

Right now, the cookie-cutter flavor of the week seems to be ragnaros, twilight & nexus whelping. I've been trying to do all the family brawler achievements, and thus far it's hard bc next to none of them I'm beating this cookie-cutter combo atm. It's very disheartening. :(

denny 글 올리기 2023-08-08 07:44:23

is there any strategy, for faster pvp wins for the 5k achievement ? if i found anyone that can que with me at the same time, still works ?

hirambab

글 올리기 2023-09-08 04:28:16

i have 20+ strats i swap each turn throwing people off that win 90% of the time every team has a weakness and can be beaten so no one team is ultimate

Agogo

글 올리기 2023-06-12 01:55:04

I found a good team to counter teh popular darkness teams. I kept coming up against Gilnean Raven, Spectral Cat, and Blind Rat teams. So I built a team to counter each one of those with Void Anubisath, Core Hound Pup, and Thaumaturgical Piglet. Worked like a charm.

Kaxer

글 올리기 2022-11-19 17:34:27

Hi Everyone! Happy new expansion! Looks like Derangement's Pet Battle Cooldowns has stopped working and it's not been updated for a while. Do you folks know of a replacement for this. It's kinda important in PVP Pet battles. <3

Gethiel 글 올리기 2022-01-18 08:35:50

When will we be able to publish our own pvp battle team, I guess these pvp teams are a bit outdated. It would be cool if anyone could publish his own team. And people would upvote (or downvote)

Gráinne

글 올리기 2022-01-18 09:42:24

You can create and publish your own teams right now.

You just have to register as a user of the site, and then you have the ability to create strats.

Shenk

글 올리기 2022-01-21 15:48:13

^this
u can add your own teams just like you can do in any of the pve sections on this site

Toenail

글 올리기 2021-07-09 18:52:36

I was in a pvp match just now and i don't know what was going on, bug or exploit.

female panda using resilient roach, cockroach, and dust bunny.

first cast was apocalypse, i replied. somehow 14 rounds were skipped w/o me being able to do anything and my pet died. same thing happened to my next 2 pets. pet #2 had 6 rounds skipped then the next apocalypse was cast, i replied and another 5 rounds skipped letting sandstorm drop off. skips continued until the apocalypse landed again. repeated for the 3rd pet.

the skips kept rolling in my pet battle combat log without any of my pets' abilities being usable . ???????

I don't know how i would even report this to blizzard if it is an exploit.

Gráinne

글 올리기 2021-07-09 19:18:58

LOL! The does indeed sound like the current bug. See front page. Never heard of it being related to Apoc, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Rosqo

글 올리기 2021-07-09 19:39:39

I'd guess that they were using fast pets with apocalypse and then just skipping until it hits.
To play around the bug to some extent try always first abilities, fast fliers and speed increase abilities such as leap or adrenaline rush. Basically if you're faster then you control if the bug occurs or not.

Toenail

글 올리기 2021-07-10 00:39:51

i thought the bug was only in pve battles? intentionally using a bug to do content is in blizzard;s definition of exploiting

Gráinne

글 올리기 2021-07-10 01:19:44

The bug is innocent of any discrimination. It affects all battles equally!

I suppose you could try to report it. There is a way, I remember, even though you can't right-click the usual way. I looked it up once. Be sure to include the character/realn you were playing, and the EXACT time. Probably the species used in the teams as well.

Personally, I wouldn't bother, It'll be over soon.

Rosqo

글 올리기 2021-07-10 02:19:48

It's a waste of time reporting players because the bug happens during regular play not just intentional exploiting.

GCSuns

글 올리기 2021-12-21 10:24:25

I'm thinking the OP was considering reporting it to Bliz as just a bug in the game, rather than as their opponent acting unfairly. (edited)

Kals 글 올리기 2021-01-02 13:53:19

Any updates soon on good pet teams and rotation?
Seems like most of the current ones are barely working 1/4 matches

anays 글 올리기 2021-05-14 11:22:54

Second this. The current teams are outdated and is often countered.
Would be nice to see some new teams with an optimal rotation, rather than just a tier list.

Gráinne

글 올리기 2021-05-14 12:39:26

The word "outdated", when used without specifics, doesn't convey anything that would allow someone to help you.

It depends what you're facing. All of the teams I've looked at here seem viable in general, but the current meta is Sandstorm/Weather, or Anomalus. You have to choose your team based on what you expect to face. A Bleed or Black Claw team will hit like overboiled spaghetti in a Sandstorm, so don't use one if your Battlegroup is full of Idols and Guardlings.

No matter what set of teams someone suggests, you have to make your choice depending on what you're facing and what you're capable of playing.

1. Pick the team that suits your local meta! If you're facing weathers, bring your own. If you're facing Anomalus, slot a counter. If you're living in a Darude video, bring hard hitters that will punch throu the Sand.

2. You've still got to play it! If you can read your opponent's intentions, and you know your own team, you can put up a decent fight against most things.

And never forget - the average win rate in PvP is (slightly less than) 50%.

As for rotations, fuggedaboudit! These teams have suggested guidelines about how to handle your own pets, but it always, always depends on predicting and countering your opponent's moves. (edited)

Rosqo

글 올리기 2021-05-15 16:35:00

Most of the teams are reasonable tbh. There's two of mine that are 90%+ from this expansion. If you play with a rotation it will never ever be optimal especially once you face the same opponent a couple times.
The tier list is a close to a cheat list that you can possibly get for PVP literally just put 3 top tier pets on a team and you should get like 70% win rate unless there's a skill issue. (edited)

Kaxer

글 올리기 2020-08-10 04:17:03

Hey guys! So have you seen the new teams with 3 Anomaluses (technically should be Anomali) that wreck everything without requiring any skill? I had the pleasure of meeting some of those this past week. lol

Rosqo

글 올리기 2020-08-10 05:58:48

Anomalus isn't really a pet that benefits from having multiple versions of itself on the same team. One would be enough with 2 pets that synergize with its initial aoe damage/poison.

Shenk

글 올리기 2020-08-10 06:35:25

for the same reason it isn't wise to use 2 or 3 copies of any pet in one team as they are all vulnerable to the same counter

Kaxer

글 올리기 2020-08-19 01:54:58

Thanks to your guides, I managed to get my Family Brawler last week. Those teams with 3 anomaluses are annoying but I managed. Big thank you to Rosqo and Shenk for their great videos. Keep it up folks! <3 (edited)

Pankracy#2378

글 올리기 2021-04-19 11:31:36

Also, very, VERY easy to fight with. All you need is LITERALLY one pet in your comp with 298+ speed and Brittle Webbing skill. H/S Crystal Spider is HIGHLY recommended, since he has 305 speed, as well as an awesome moveset, with Brittle Webbing, Crystal Prison and Leech Life OR Spiderling Swarm. Put Brittle Weabing at the beginning, see if Anomalus applie Poison Protocol or Void Slap. If later, then Leech Life/Spiderling Swarm, if former, then Crystal Prison and just watch Anomalus melt down himself with its own weapon ;). Rinse and repeat. Done.

Sart 글 올리기 2021-01-13 21:10:37

Reposting my question from the team section here:

Hey guys, great website, thanks a lot for all the work you do. I've got a question about CloneDance teams in particular if you don't mind: How do you choose which pet to use as your clone setter? By power, to have Cyclone, your main source of dps, do as much damage as possible? By survivability (e.g. Blighthawk for UD racial), so it can set Clone as often as possible throughout a match? By type synergy with your Rain Dance pet (should be a Jademist Dancer in 99,9% of all cases if I understood it right :P )? Or am I missing something completely?

Thanks in advance!

Shenk

글 올리기 2021-01-22 13:30:27

sorry for the late response...

so you pretty much almost summed it up. there are multiple reasons to pick one cyclone pet over another and often times it comes down to personal preference. in most cases the cyclone pet either is great as an opener pet (fast with some sort of CC e.g. shore butterfly) or it can deal a lot of damage in a relatively short time (primarily also in form of cleave e.g. voidglower).
it also is important that the cyclone pet works well in combination with the buff pet since this isn't always the case (for example they cover as many counters types as possible) (edited)

Sart 글 올리기 2021-01-24 06:10:59

np, thanks for the help! It's good to know I was on the right track, even though that now makes my decision about which clone pet to pick just as hard as before haha

Shenk

글 올리기 2021-01-24 07:00:35

well clone dance still is good enough to make it work with almost any combination of pets. in the end it just comes down to whether the combo has a 75% win ratio or 85%+ ^^ (edited)

Toenail

글 올리기 2020-11-22 18:57:53

sunlight/photosynthesis teams are really starting to trigger me as well. working on brutal Pet Brawler by way of Family Brawler is leaving few options. I did find 1 pet that will kill most any of them in 3 rounds but it still leaves me sol even with all darkness teams. I need to git gud ;)

edit: forgot to name the pet. Crypt Fiend from Strathholme pet dungeon vendor. Sticky Web/Roar of the Dead/Call Darkness=a dead healing elemental. i use web first so it can't be swapped when roar lands. i haven't checked all the elementals to see if they have any way to shield/dodge/etc but it has worked so far. i still need to work on the other 2 in the heal team as the crypt fiend is not lasting too long in the back row from sunlight blasts for a repeat performance.

i am doing the undead, humanoid and mechanical brawler teams which is limiting my choices. crypt fiend in a mixed team would drive those heal elemental teams back to the depths where they belong. ;)
(edited)

Toenail

글 올리기 2020-11-22 15:46:06

Anomalus needs a blizzard review. # 5 of any P/P pet in my 1220 unique collection AND much faster than any P/P pet. puts out lots of team damage even if you don't have flyers magic or critters in your team.

Shenk

글 올리기 2020-11-22 16:08:05

took blizzard more than an expansion to nerf TCS and then they just reduced the meteorite by 5 damage kek. guess we can expect a -3 speed nerf for anomalus in like 9.3.5 (edited)

Toenail

글 올리기 2020-11-22 18:52:53

lol of course that will still leave it faster than any other P/P pet until you get down to some P/S ones.

Jarbringer 글 올리기 2020-10-15 05:15:01

Any news on successfully tested prepatch PVP teams? I obviously have to retire my near 100% win ratio dream team of Anomalus, Wyrmy Tunkins and Hermit Crab…

Mutanis

글 올리기 2020-10-15 05:30:49

Try something new;)

Pankracy#2378

글 올리기 2020-10-25 16:17:07

And thanks God, even tho this team is so easy to fight I was getting sick of battling the same team all over and all over again (there is also Blightbreath, Jademist Dancer and Hermit Crab/Anomalus which also make me sick). There is over 1k pets to choose from yet it happens to meet those two comps sooo often. It only highlits, how limited people are... Apart of treating pet battles as fun, complex and really fun addition to main game, they prefer to play with the same team all time.... Pity, feel sorry for them (huh, time to learn how to play battle pets, fortunately, has come for them ;))) Other thing is, that Blizz in its bottomles “wisdom”, made, say, 5K PVP win achie. Some of those dumb-asses aren’t even actually interested in pets, they are just doing achie hunt ;(. Anomalus, btw, should be nerfed too as this pet is sooooo OP that I have no words.... (edited)

Toenail

글 올리기 2019-12-06 13:27:01

lol Murkalot is crazy good. righteous inspiration/falling murloc got in the first hit on my s/s fiendish imp and 1-shot it at full HP. makes me wish i hadn't missed all those blizzcons ;)

JarofFlies

글 올리기 2019-09-20 09:53:57

AOE meta cleave teams are just as lame as the heal and stall teams to me. None of them take any skill

Gráinne

글 올리기 2019-09-20 10:53:54

It's the inherent nature of the current PvP system, in which anyone can select any team, and everyone is in the same queue.

Lots of people don't enjoy it. They just do it for the achievement, or the Direhorn, or whatever. They see no reason to play teams that please someone else's aesthetic sense of what teams are not "lame".

P.S. As a point of personal opinion, I don't object to AoE teams as strongly as heal-and-swap teams, since they don't leave you with the decision of resigning immediately or being stuck there for an hour.

But nevertheless people have a right to play heal-and-stall teams. And I have a right to chase that team through the queue until it doesn't want to live any more! (edited)

Shenk

글 올리기 2019-09-21 13:56:43

i wish everyone was in the same queue

Toenail

글 올리기 2019-06-09 21:01:17

a counter team is only going to help if you see that team next time. I have seen a Fragment of Desire/Anger/Suffering undead team a few times, and SoulRush is stunning way too often.

Remte

글 올리기 2019-06-10 03:00:25

Are you playing on EU servers? I've seen that yesterday and it was hilarious.

Shenk

글 올리기 2019-06-11 04:30:16

well you don't have set up a whole team around one specific counter. often times one pet that does this job well will be enough

Gráinne

글 올리기 2019-07-03 04:30:44

The Three Fragments is a classic that has been around since Warlords. I do love a theme team!

Toenail

글 올리기 2019-06-09 20:16:24

yeah, blossoming ancient, singing sunflower, corefire imp sucks. Even the imp healed to full once after a big hit. 30 rounds later 2 of those pets was at or near full health and the other was at 1/2.

ragath

글 올리기 2019-05-23 10:42:27

Would be cool to have something similar to the strategy system for PvP teams with information like (basic) rotation, pros / cons, win / lose statistics etc. I understand it's different from fights against scripted NPCs. It's thought as team suggestions.

Gráinne

글 올리기 2019-05-23 11:40:02

I'm really not sure what that would look like. Win/Lose stats maybe ... Disco did them for pets once, but they change with every meta, so there is no continuity. If you want to learn, start with the suggestions above, or some team you feel comfortable with, and just hop into the queue! It's pet week, so an excellent time, when all the beginners and non-battlers are out.

Shenk

글 올리기 2019-05-23 14:44:41

i can't see how the existing pvp teams don't already have basic rotations. and concerning the win/lose rate... they are not set in stone, since they may vary a lot based on your skill and the meta that you are playing in.

ragath

글 올리기 2019-05-23 17:09:24

I actually didn't see the PvP strategies on the left hand side otherwise I'd probably didn't write that. Although as highlighted above, in PvP there are other points that matter. An option would be to introduce a new strategy parameter like enemyType (environment|player). Depending on the value, it shows different information for a user. I'm clearly aware that enemies differ from fight to fight, but it's still statistical data, e. g. I make a new fancy PvP team and write that I won 89 fights out of 100 fights. Additionally, this was just an idea not a whole concept. Just an idea from a newbie. I like both, pve and pvp fights. For PvE this site is perfect with all those great strategies, but for PvP I get less information, I could chose one of those 6 teams / strategies created by Shenk and I dont say there are bad. I just mean there could be more of those, also from many other players, and with a better focus on PvP related information. I hope you get my impartial point.
And Grainne, of course you should have to update your PvP strategies as you should update your PvE strategies when Blizzard change spells or stuff.
Another suggestion would be to bound a strategy to the respective Game version and also show the updated time, e. g. when I would create a strategy now, you'd see Patch 8.1.5 - 23.05.2019. So you can easily see how updated a strategy is. People would simply see if a strategy is outdated.

Shenk

글 올리기 2019-05-23 18:07:58

you're asking too much from a pvp section on a website that actually is just there to help with pve encounters. putting so much effort into the systems you are proposing would be meaningful to just a very small amount of users.
also those pvp teams are there just to give a general idea about what you could play. playing and learning the strategies yourself is imo more beneficial than writing down every single situation that you could find yourself in (also that would be too much work^^)

ragath

글 올리기 2019-05-23 18:15:54

I'm not asking for it. It was an idea. You dont like it, that's okay.
I don't know how many users would use it, probably you also don't have statistical data about it, but nvm.
You can also use your own strategies for scripted fights or you use the knowledge of the mass. No one forces anyone to use any strategy. Personally, as said before, I would welcome it to see such pvp strategies of other players.
But if you decline my idea, simply remove this whole message and next time I have an idea I won't annoy you with it.

aelfraed 글 올리기 2019-05-05 04:33:13

I don't like the heal and stall idea at all but Blizz in their wisdom, have given us an achievement to win 5 in a row and no pet dies, so heal and stall it is then

Gráinne

글 올리기 2019-05-05 09:27:09

Even the dreaded Sunlight->Photosynthesis->Swap->Sunlight->Photosynthesis->Swap sequence is very far from guaranteed. It is the ONE thing in PvP that will make me determined to chase that team through the queue and destroy its will to live. :)

OK, I'm not actually in the queue much these days, :) but I'm also not the only one that team riles up.

I have heard that if you have racked up one or more wins towards the achievement, and then flee a battle before any moves, that your wins remain towards the achievement. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. I heard it long after I got my NTTH, so I can't test it. If you are trying for the achievement, it would be a good time to test, when you see a counter that is sure to absolutely crush you.

Shenk

글 올리기 2019-05-09 18:54:54

iirc i did this a loooong time ago with a level 1 team. every win granted the team one more level (given they all participated). and in the lowlevels people tend to have very low exp and often not even rare quality pets

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