Xu-Fu Strategy vs. Help a Whelp

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Any Level 5+ Pet	Jessail	There is an inherent randomness to this fight, but i've minimized it as much as possible. I tried all of the strats on offer here, but none of them worked well for me, so i made my own. I used the basis of one of the other strats, and tried to improve on it. The TD script is set to auto forfeit the match if you dont kill the Owl in 3 turns. It usually does, but not always, and i noticed that when it didn't, the failure rate on the match was 90+ percent. With this method, i've donr around 20 matches, only 2 failed to kill the Owl and auto forfeited, all the others won (though that is a small sample size and i might just have gotten lucky). Also, Arcane Storm that the Owl uses is strong against Flying pets, so you'll probably need a level 5 or so leveling pet to survive it.	Level 5+ Script	2	4.4	N/A	26	77 1:17	11+
			Script	2	4.7	N/A	6	88 1:28	11
Any Level 15+ Pet		This strategy can sometimes fail. Only use if you really want to level a pet and don't have the pets for the main strategy available.	RNG Level 15+ Script	2	4.1	N/A	12	68 1:08	8
Any Level 1+ Pet	norng	10 rounds.	Breed Level 1+ Script	2	3.7	N/A	7	72 1:12	10
	Malafacha	Due to not having pets shown in the strategies offered, I looked to wowhead.com . This is not my strategy, the original owner is: By thecraQ (260 – 3·2) on 2017/02/13 (Patch 7.1.5) Found on wowhead.com at: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=42154/help-a-whelp#comments I did change the order of Pet Abilities for the Teroclaw Hatchling to reflect the strategy. Script thanks to Baratheus	Script	2	3.9	N/A	9	87 1:27	10+
Any Pet	Ai-Shibo			2	5.0	N/A	4	85 1:25	10
Any Level 5+ Pet	DragonsAfterDark	338 is the highest damage a flyer pet will take on the backline, hence the health restriction Flyer: 225 reg damage / 338 crit damage Mech: 98 reg damage / 148 crit damage All other families: 150 reg damage / 225 crit damage	Shop Level 5+ Script	2	5.0	N/A	2	69 1:09	9
	MiaVanCleefa#2266		RNG	2	5.0	N/A	0	105 1:45	13+
Any Level 5+ Pet		DragonsAfterDark: Strategy has been updated in response to feedback. Thank you to dawnoffayt for the suggestion of Dibbler ^^	Level 5+ Script	2	4.0	N/A	0	71 1:11	9
	Slayman#2794		RNG	2	1.0	N/A	1	80 1:20	9+
Any Level 11+ Pet	Lunadorei	Script thanks to BluejayWitch	Breed RNG Level 11+ Script	2	0.0	N/A	0	108 1:48	13

Incl. steps:

Nexus Whelpling

Skills: 1 2 2
Breed: Any

Breed	Health	Power	Speed
PP	1400	341	244
PS	1400	305	273
PB	1465	305	257

Breed	Health	Power	Speed
PS	1400	305	273

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Skills: 1 1 1
Breed: Any

Breed	Health	Power	Speed
PP	1400	341	244
PS	1400	305	273
PB	1465	305	257

Breed	Health	Power	Speed
HB	1546	273	273

Substitutes:

1 / 3

1 / 2

This strategy can sometimes fail. Only use if you really want to level a pet and don't have the pets for the main strategy available.

Breed

RNG

TCG

Shop

Level 15+

Tricky

Script

Unobtainable

Staff Pick

Patch 10.2

Time: 1:08

Rounds: 8

Before		After	Experience Gain
1	➜	12	4785
2	➜	12	5082
3	➜	12	5346
4	➜	13	5577
5	➜	13	5775
6	➜	14	5940
7	➜	14	6072
8	➜	15	6171
9	➜	15	6237
10	➜	16	6270
11	➜	16	6270
12	➜	17	6237
13	➜	18	6171
14	➜	18	6072
15	➜	19	5940
16	➜	20	5775
17	➜	20	5577
18	➜	21	5346
19	➜	22	5082
20	➜	22	4785
21	➜	23	4455
22	➜	24	4092
23	➜	24	3696
24	➜	25	1980

Strategy Details

1 Min 8 Sec

N/A

2017-05-27 05:32:55

41,057

Tamer Details

Hungry Owl, Hungry Rat

Medium XP

Turn 1

Arcane Storm

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turns 2-4

Mana Surge - the Hungry Owl dies

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Hungry Rat comes in

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turns 1+

Arcane Storm and Tail Sweep until your Nexus Whelpling dies

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Bring in your Level Pet

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turn 1

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Turns 2+

Rampage

Nexus Whelpling

Any Level 15+ Pet

Kun-Lai Runt

Pass

Bring in your Nexus Whelpling

Bring in your Kun-Lai Runt

Bring in your Level Pet

Swap to your Nexus Whelpling

Swap to your Kun-Lai Runt

Swap to your Level Pet

Hungry Owl comes in

Hungry Rat comes in

An enemy pet comes in

Any standard attack will finish the fight

Quick! Do something!

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Eekwibble wrote on 2017-10-02 00:43:57

You're actually better off not casting Arcane Storm first, just open with Mana Surge straight away. There are actually 3 reasons for this;
1. You will kill Hungry Owl in 3 turns rather than 4 just using Mana Surge, because;
2. Hungry Owl casts Arcane Storm on turn 2 which buffs your Mana Surge, but, if you've already cast it, Hungry Owl's cast does more damage to your Whelpling, so, if you don't cast it first;
3. Your Whelpling will face Hungry Rat with more hp and last a turn longer, dealing a little more damage before it dies.

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Feorthorn wrote on 2018-01-28 01:49:48

I have tried the original and your suggestion. The original worked 4 out of 4 times, yours failed 3 out of 3.

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Anonymous wrote on 2018-06-14 08:23:56

Tried the original 3 times, didnt work out, but this worked the first time. thx.

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LuunaBerry#2954

wrote on 2019-05-30 16:02:05

I can confirm that this is still the better strat to go for

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Enzzo#1146

wrote on 2021-02-04 08:17:19

tl;dr - lead with Tail Swipe instead (tested with P/P Nexus Whelpling)
My P/P Nexus Whelpling still kills Hungry Owl in 3 turns by casting Arcane Storm first; and the 3rd round of Mana Surge hits the Hungry Rat which deals more damage than hitting it with a tail swipe or Arcane Storm. The extra damage from the Hungry Owl's Arcane Storm is removed by leading with Tail Swipe instead. The Owl still dies in 3 turns. The damage done to each pet is 175 if you lead with Arcane Storm; otherwise it is 150. That extra 25 health can make a difference in this fight since if you take an unlucky crit or an extra hit from Quills (or both) it can end the fight in a loss. (edited)

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Drudois#1363

wrote on 2022-09-15 12:43:22

This should work:

TDScript
---------------------
change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#2).played]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
if [self(#1).active]
ability(#1) [self.round=1]
ability(#2) [self.round=2]
ability(#3) [!weather(Arcane Winds)]
ability(#1)
endif
if [self(#3).active]
ability(#3)
endif

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Anonymous wrote on 2017-07-24 13:09:02

TDScript

change(#2) [self(#1).dead & !self(#2).played]
change(#3) [self(#2).active]
if [self(#1).active]
ability(#2) [self.round=2]
ability(#3) [!weather(Arcane Winds)]
ability(#1)
endif
if [self(#3).active]
ability(#3)
endif

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Scrapbookee wrote on 2017-10-01 11:41:50

Thank you SO MUCH for this script.

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Talorhan wrote on 2017-07-25 21:21:48

Nice strat One shot victory

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julianne wrote on 2017-05-26 03:09:46

Gr8 work ive tried this one and the first one and this one works so much better, Keep up the gr8 work guys.

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Eekwibble wrote on 2017-02-09 21:52:19

This is far and away the best strat. With a P/P Nex Whelp and a P/P Runt, it's superb for leveling lowbie pets. So what if you take an unlucky crit? That's life. You've got over 50 bandages on you.. well, if you haven't, you're doing it wrong...

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Mistredo wrote on 2017-01-03 12:49:36

I have replaced Kun-Lai Runt with Chrominius and it works too.

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Adonsinara wrote on 2016-12-09 09:07:02

Stormborne Whelpling is a good substitute for the Nexus, just fyi - exact same build

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Moichelmaus wrote on 2016-11-06 04:29:18

Just did the Quest with Ghostly Skull, Bone Serpent and Snowfeather Hatchling for the Mount...

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Ravage wrote on 2016-09-24 02:20:59

This worked fine with me (Nexus and Kun-lai), no crits on either side.

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Fink wrote on 2016-09-17 20:12:52

worked perfectly for me, but it may fail if enemy has a lucky crit

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Partizan wrote on 2016-09-15 23:27:53

I used Nexus Whelping for the first pet, but Tonk didn't work and died to the rat. Instead, I used:

Xu-Fu, Cub of Xuen (2, 1, 2)
1. Prowl
2. Feed
3. Bite
4. Bite

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Aranesh

wrote on 2016-09-16 01:00:30

Can't take this one sadly. Xu-Fu is hard to get (^^) and in many of my tries died before he could get Feed off.

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Marintha wrote on 2016-09-17 00:47:54

I used Feed as soon as Xu-Fu was out, then Vengeance ended the rat - it still does bonus damage, despite copying the previous attach damage in the description.

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Saryas wrote on 2016-09-16 04:06:35

So the strat kept failing for me, so I brought a darkmoon tonk instead of the kun-lai runt...used Shock and Awe followed by Ion Cannon. It was perfect :D

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Aranesh

wrote on 2016-09-16 00:48:39

And I directly have to change that again, since it sadly doesn't work :/

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Aranesh

wrote on 2016-09-16 06:03:16

That sounds like a fantastic idea. I'm going to change the strat accordingly :-)

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Sol wrote on 2016-09-16 00:34:01

If you swap tonk for Rabid Nut Vermint 5000, use Extra Plating and spam Trash you are more likely to succeed killing the Hungry Rat. Tonk failed several times for me.

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Aranesh

wrote on 2016-09-16 00:57:51

That can work but is very random as well, since Thrash only hits 1 times often enough. It worsk better than the tonk, but is still very unreliable.

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Zaymaa wrote on 2016-09-16 00:03:33

Needed a hit from my level 12 Mini Mindslayer to finish off the rat.

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Anonymous wrote on 2016-09-15 23:21:44

My Whelpling & Tonk can't deal with them like wrote here. I think it depends on crits. First time my Whelpling die and deal no damage to Rat, second time he hit, but rat had more HP then Ion Cannon damages, so I think Tonk must Missle for solid, anyway it has free turn.

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Tahnischa wrote on 2016-09-15 21:41:06

Don't work. First part easy, but the rat doesn't die.

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Amaryliss wrote on 2016-09-15 21:17:25

Started with my level 11 boost pet. Took 1 turn then brought in the nexus whelpling. Arcane storm > mana surge till the owl died. Then used Zandalari Anklerender to kill the rat. Primal Cry > Black Claw > Hunting Party

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Tazzo wrote on 2016-09-15 20:00:22

Tried using Chrominius in place of whelpling since I don't have that pet but couldn't get anywhere with this fight. Tonk isn't even close to killing rat. Anyone got an alternative strat without nexus whelp?

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Nordak wrote on 2016-09-03 19:28:08

Kun-Lai Runt kept taking too much damage from the tornadoes...by the time he came in, I was only able to get one Rampage off before he dies =(

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Emerald Proto-Whelp wrote on 2016-09-03 05:38:34

Easy pizi

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Ndianagnomes/Etts of ettspets wrote on 2016-09-03 04:19:41

Good strat. Just wanted to note that you can go with a lower level leveling pet (I had one randomly live at level 9), but I tell my users to go with something higher as well and actually picked level 15 as a safe bet after watching a level 10 and 13 bite it. On a side note you can use ANY pet with Rampage. In my guide I use the Flayer Youngling.

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DaBear78 wrote on 2017-10-01 05:41:37

change(#2) [ self(#1).dead & !self(#2).played ]
change(#3) [ self(#1).dead & self(#2).played ]
ability(589) [ !weather(590) ]
ability(489)
ability(122)
ability(124)

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Fyle wrote on 2017-05-25 03:43:06

Bei mir hat es super mit Alternative 3 geklappt. Danke schön !!

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Anonymous wrote on 2017-04-19 16:41:39

Das Level 15 Pet hier gegen ein 20+ austauschen, wenn das Kun-lai dann zu früh stirbt einfach mit diesem den kampf beenden (am besten einen Hasen oder so der ausweichen kann)

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Marcel wrote on 2017-02-09 10:08:31

Funktioniert nicht

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Xpomul wrote on 2017-02-09 12:39:26

Bei mir bei etwa einem von drei Mal. Für #2 hab ich ein Pet nicht, #1 ist kein Levelpet drin.

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Marcel wrote on 2017-02-09 15:26:25

Ok, dann muss ich es wohl mehrmals versuchen,
4x hatte ichs, dass Kun-lai stirbt aber immer zu früh.

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