Xu-Fu Strategy vs. Fermière Nishi

Vachon8449

rédigé le 2023-10-01 02:23:39

You mentioned, "If you can track the enemies skill cool downs ..." Is there an addon that does this?

Lazey

rédigé le 2023-10-01 08:00:12

The author of Rematch also made a nice little compilation of QoL features (incl. enemy ability CDs) https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/battle-pet-battle-ui-tweaks

Gremlin64#1527

rédigé le 2021-10-25 04:52:07

Switched to Stormborne Whelpling and it worked fine

Spear#2904

rédigé le 2021-08-28 06:00:40

Worked perfectly for me. Nexus was a bit low, but survived and killed the first 2 pets.

mAd#1759

rédigé le 2021-07-12 05:16:24

Maybe I was lucky, but it did work for me patch 9.1

Artium#1474

rédigé le 2021-07-04 23:27:46

I think this strat is no longer viable. Failed 5 times in a row now. Whelpling gets taken down too low by first pet and dies consistently to the carrot. Something changed this patch to make losing a certainty, I do not recall submerge ever firing twice.
(edited)

Grevenilvec

rédigé le 2021-07-01 01:05:32

I think this broke in 9.1. The nexus whelping dies much too quickly.

Pleodonis

rédigé le 2021-02-17 22:33:20

Ran this exactly as described with TD Script and elekk plushy, no issues! Thanks

Moos

rédigé le 2021-02-14 15:07:10

I used Iron Starlette instead of Chrominius and she was the game saver...Nexus Whelpling died, so Starlette used 3x Powerball to finish of the carrot and then managed to kill the 3rd pet, even though I failed and activated the supercharged Wind-up when the 3rd pet was burrowed...anyways...I still won.

thetravellor#1451

rédigé le 2018-06-18 08:11:07

Does not work,

FailedBurn

rédigé le 2021-02-01 14:26:09

yeah dosent work at all nexus dies to the stupid sunflower like turn 4

Tofke

rédigé le 2020-10-20 19:39:37

Works perfect in Pre-patch

Ivydoom rédigé le 2020-04-10 18:33:09

This strat works a lot better when the very 1st move is tailsweep and then arcane storms, then you have actually 3 aracne storm turns left with the manasurge on 2nd enemy, which will kill that before it can damage nexus whelpling and that way it survives until the burrow move of the 3rd enemy.

rédigé le 2020-04-10 19:32:11

That sounds very plausible! I'm not sure it's necessary, but it's always nice to consider the nuts and bolts of how a strat might work better.

Ephera#11569

rédigé le 2020-02-14 00:02:02

amazing start to this date

Duox rédigé le 2020-01-02 12:21:32

another not working strategy for this fight. Pandaria lists need updating badly

rédigé le 2020-01-02 15:59:06

This one failed for me as well. I used a P/S Nexus, just to be awkward, but I don't think that was the problem; the Nexus survived to meet Brood of Mothallus, and got in one Tail Sweep, which seems to be what the strategy expects.

On both occasions, my Nexus died while Brood was underground, so Chrominius took the big hit when he came in,

My first thought is that the problem is the change to Howl (but that was quite a long time ago!). As written, in the current Howl aura, Howl doubles the damage of Bite, but not of Surge of Power. So I tried it again, with that in mind.

Howl->Bite is useless now; you will be just as well off with two Bites.

I switched the last three moves "Howl->Bite->Surge of Power" to Bite->Howl->Surge of Power, and it worked nicely.

I'm asking the Strategy Curators to have a look.

Sigri rédigé le 2020-01-13 14:03:43

Worked for me just now with P/B Nexus and H/H Chrominius

rédigé le 2020-01-14 01:09:02

Yes, Shenk edited it since the original comment. It could sometimes work in its original form, but could also sometimes fail.

Tamika#2148

rédigé le 2018-08-07 13:45:15

NOTE: If you can track the enemies skill cooldowns and if Brood of Mothallus's Burrow is off cooldown you'll want to pass then go onto Howl. The current TD script doesn't track it so if you hammer the auto button it will fail. We, however, can patch this with a single line change:

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(589) [!weather(590)]
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
change(#2) [enemy.round=1]
standby [enemy.round=2]
change(#1) [enemy.round=3]
ability(489)
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(122)
change(#3) [self(#1).dead]
ability(Howl:362) [!enemy.aura(1725).exists & !enemy(Brood of Mothallus:995).ability(Burrow:159).usable]
ability(Bite:110) [enemy.aura(1725).duration=2]
ability(Surge of Power:593) [enemy.aura(1725).duration<=1]
endif

Barail#2892

rédigé le 2018-11-18 14:34:13

thx work fine

Mar#1286

rédigé le 2019-07-10 04:06:48

Much better ty

Kathleene

rédigé le 2019-03-03 00:02:25

This first strategy (with Nexus Whelpling, Level Pet, & Chrominius) worked beautifully the first time I tried it. Thanks Xu-Fu!

DZL rédigé le 2018-05-29 17:15:02

Solo'd with Benax 121

Tullemus

rédigé le 2018-04-08 00:53:15

First alternative fails

Balrog-Arygos rédigé le 2016-11-02 17:30:06

I use this strategy and it's worked wonders for years.

Sea Pony 2 2 2
Any level 2+ pet (needs to have at least 165 HP or be Magic to live through the one-time party damage you'll receive from Siren)
Level 25 Mechanical pet (or any strong against beasts for Mothallus).

Start the fight with Cleansing Rain which will both heal you and change the weather after Siren cast his sunny day spell. Then use Pump four times to kill Siren, while he recharges after using his main attack. Once Toothbreaker shows up, immediately use Tidal Wave to sweep away the little carrots. Bring in your level pet, do any attack, then back to Sea Pony. Use Pump to finish Toothbreaker. When Mothallus comes in, swap to your mechanical pet (I use Mini Thor usually) and just use whatever strong attacks to finish it off. Hope that helps someone!

Narinae rédigé le 2016-11-05 13:17:45

This worked beautifully! I'd just note that the second action Mothallus will take is to go underground. Plan that round accordingly.

abigar

rédigé le 2017-11-08 20:24:02

this strat is really solid. I like it.

Paww

rédigé le 2018-03-08 17:06:22

I like it since it uses a couple of different pets, thanks.

StrangrDangr#1435

rédigé le 2018-03-02 06:31:10

The TD script doesn't work for me for the last pet, he keeps using Surge of Power too soon then running out of attacks. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ This is an edited version that seemed to work:

if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(589) [!weather(590)]
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
change(#2) [enemy.round=1]
standby [enemy.round=2]
change(#1) [enemy.round=3]
ability(#3)
ability(#2)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(122)
change(#3) [self(#1).dead]
ability(#2) [!enemy.aura(1725).exists]
ability(#1)
ability(#3)
endif

toliman rédigé le 2017-06-15 12:52:43

a modification for the tdscript to handle pet deaths / failures, which can happen if you don't set the levelling restrictions ... :/

quit [self(#2).dead]
if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(589) [!weather(590)]
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
quit [self(#1).dead]
change(#2) [enemy.round=1]
standby [enemy.round=2]
change(#1) [enemy.round=3]
ability(489)
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(122)
change(#3) [self(#1).dead]
ability(362) [!enemy.aura(1725).exists]
ability(110) [enemy.aura(1725).duration=2]
ability(593) [enemy.aura(1725).duration<=1]
endif

fr0z3night

rédigé le 2018-02-06 11:45:32

what is aura 1725 because the aura that is on the 3rd enemy pet is underground which is aura 340, it kept running the abilities even though the opponent was underground, took me a while to figure out the aura was wrong.

quit [self(#2).dead]
if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(589) [!weather(590)]
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
quit [self(#1).dead]
change(#2) [enemy.round=1]
standby [enemy.round=2]
change(#1) [enemy.round=3]
ability(489)
ability(122)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
ability(122)
change(#3) [self(#1).dead]
ability(362) [enemy.aura(340).duration<=1]
ability(593) [!enemy.aura(340).exists]
ability(#1)
endif

Kreggy rédigé le 2017-08-24 17:48:51

I use Anubisath idol here on 1, 1, 1 and 2 lvling pets - they can be lvl 1.
Turn 1 - Sandstorm
2 - Crush
3 - Deflect
rinse and repeat until siren is dead, Toothbreaker enters
1 - swap in lvl pet no 1
2 - swap back to anub
3 - refresh sandstorm
4 - Keep on with crush and refreshing sandstorm until next sons opf root when your 2nd lvl 1 pet can be swapped in. Just keep sandstorm up and crush until toothbreaker is dead.
Mothallus enters - keep up sandstorm, and use crush - save deflect for when he burrows.

Air rédigé le 2017-10-15 19:08:49

First attack already kills my lvl1. Cant get this one to work.

Air rédigé le 2017-10-15 19:27:20

Can you write a TD Script for this?

Ricardo rédigé le 2018-01-21 05:37:43

Level pets needs to have 800 health, then works fine.

Scyre

rédigé le 2018-01-07 16:37:52

The little crocs are very good for this fight. (Chuck, Toothless, etc..)
Darkmoon Zeppelin 1,1,2
Chuck 1,1,2
Level pet - (only takes damage on one round - not two - so maybe level 6+?)

1) Decoy
2) swap to Chuck
3) Rip
4) Blood in the Water
5) Surge
6) Surge
7) Surge
8) Blood in the water (first opponent dead)
9) Surge
10) Swap to level pet
11) Swap to Chuck
12) Rip
13) Blood in the water
14) Surge until opponent Dead
15) Rip
16) Surge
17) Blood in the water
18) surge until chuck dead (bring in Zep)
19 Missile until opponent dead
Win!

Scyre

rédigé le 2018-01-15 17:50:50

rematch script

ability(#3) [round=1]
change(#2) [round=2]
if [enemy(#1).active]
ability(#1) [self.round=1]
ability(#3) [self.round=2]
ability(#2)
endif
if [enemy(#2).active]
ability(#2) [enemy.round=1]
change(#3) [enemy.round=2]
change(#2) [enemy.round=3]
ability(#1) [enemy.round=4]
ability(#3) [enemy.round=5]
ability(#2)
endif
if [enemy(#3).active]
change(#1) [self(#2).dead]
ability(#1) [enemy.round=1]
ability(#2) [enemy.round=2]
ability(#3) [enemy.round=3]
ability(#2) [self(#2).active]
ability(#1)
endif

Unlak rédigé le 2017-04-30 06:21:36

With Chrominius I want to add one change:
Turn 1 - Howl (also add the bite here if his Burrow is on CD)
Turn 2 - Surge of Power (usually he dies here)
Turn 3 - Bite (if needed)

On another note. Thanks for a great page with guides :)

CoJo rédigé le 2016-12-18 13:30:03

Is Chrominius' Howl supposed to go on the turn Mothallus Burrows? I've done this fight a few times now and Chrominius always ends up dying before killing Moth due to the Howl being on a Burrow'd target. I usually am having to finish with a fight to death using my leveling pet.

Using:
P/P Nexus Whelpling
Leveling Pet
H/H Chrominius

Motokki rédigé le 2016-12-25 20:24:25

I found the same thing. Just add a Bite on Turn 1 so you don't waste the Howl when he burrows, and you should be good to go.

rédigé le 2017-01-01 09:58:48

Added, thanks!

DTJ rédigé le 2016-11-01 00:33:38

First attempt and it failed due to Nexus (P/P) dying to DoT after first Tail Sweep on Brood and then Chrominius's Howl+Surge combo didn't finish Brood off and thus I got wiped out.

Second attempt, Nexus survived the DoT and died during Brood's burrow. Chrominius came in and ate the Burrow attack, then did Howl > Bite > Surge and won.

This is kinda risky.

Anonymous rédigé le 2016-06-04 21:59:05

You can actually do this with a level 5 or so pet if you have Spawn of G'Nathus - Darkmoon Tonk. It just needs to be high enough level to survive the Sunlight AoE on the first turn.

Start with Spawn - use Shallow You Whole the first 2 rounds, then Dive. Then, Swallow you Whole until the first pet is dead. On Toothbreaker, use Swallow You Whole the first turn, then Dive when available (Thunderbolt if it isn't available and Toothbreaker is under ground). Spam Swallow You Whole until Toothbreaker dies.

When Brood of Mothalus comes out, leave Spawn out for the first turn (Brood will cast Acidic Goo). Immediately switch to your carry pet. Brood goes into Burrow that round, so there is no risk of the carry pet getting hit with damage. Then, immediately switch to Darkmoon Tonk. Shock and Awe - Ion Cannon blows it up.

rédigé le 2016-06-11 21:36:52

Hey! I find my second alternative here very similar to your approach. I think that should cover this fight :-)
Thanks for the suggestion!

Remte

rédigé le 2016-07-02 03:30:03

Well, many burst pets can finish the Brood regardless on the path chosen: the mentioned Chrominius and Darkmoon Tonk, but also Iron Starlette, Brightpaw, Fluxfire Feline and so on. The difference of 150 Elemental damage that a carry pet takes during the 2nd option here is nullified by several Cleansing Rains. But I respect that you choose to not change weather during this encounterâ€¦ though it seems to be just designed to make that decision. ^^

Remte

rédigé le 2015-10-25 12:41:52

Hi, what about a snail (Absorb/Adicic Goo/Dive)
and a non-Mech with mech attack (I have a Mechanical Axebeak)?
No idea about breeds tho.

rédigé le 2015-11-21 10:38:34

The Axebeak is super strong against Mothallus, but you still need a different pet for the first two enemies. Snails sadly stand no chance against Siren. Well actually it's the same both ways because they just are not able to kill each other with Sunlight and all their healing effects going on ^^

rédigé le 2015-05-17 15:53:19

On today's test, Chrominius' Howl missed Mothallus because he was starting his Burrow, but I used it anyway. Surge of Power was still plenty to finish him off, though.

rédigé le 2015-05-14 12:48:26

LuLu, the Arcane Storm in the first turn changes the weather, since the opponent was faster.

I usually do what I think of as the "standard" Skimmer-or-strider and Tonk strategy.

I just tried this strat now, and was blown away that it actually worked! :) I don't know whether I'm more amazed that we're using a Nexus Whelpling without Mana Surge, or that a low-health Whelpling killed a full-health Toothbreaker with Tail Sweep alone, but it's awfully cute. :D

LuLu rédigé le 2015-05-11 11:34:39

No weather changing later to end the healing benefit?

rédigé le 2015-05-14 03:50:40

That's usually not required :-) The strat works fine like that as well

Esc rédigé le 2018-06-13 12:41:44

Un Crabe empereur 2 2 2 (PP) peut presque faire le combat seul. C'est plus long, mais cela permet de up une mascotte lvl 1, il vous suffit alors de mettre une deuxième mascotte pour terminer le combat, soit une mécanique pour gérer facilement Progéniture de Mothallus qui est de type Bête, soit pour ma part avec une Ecrevisse magique 1 2 2 qui permet de gérer le combat si le Crabe empereur venait à mourir avant, mais tout autre mascotte peut faire l'affaire.

1: Afflux
2: Tourbillonnement
3: Vague de soin
4: Afflux
5: Tourbillonnement
6: Vague de soin
7: Afflux
8: Afflux (Sirène meurt)
9: Afflux (Casse-Dent entre)
10: Tourbillonnement
11: Vague de soin
12: Afflux
13: Afflux (Casse-Dent meurt)
14+: (Progéniture de Mothallus entre) A partir d'ici, lancez tout ce que vous avez jusqu'à ce que la mascotte adverse soit sous les 400pv, puis de passer jusqu'à la mort du Crabe empereur. Faire entrer le lvl up, switch sur la mascotte qui finira le combat. Vous pouvez aussi utiliser la technique de la mascotte mécanique avec Exploser pour ne pas avoir à faire entrer le lvl up.

Bonne chance

Esc rédigé le 2018-06-13 17:10:10

Navré, j'ai fait une erreur, lancez Tourbillonnement au premier tour bien-sur, ainsi que vague de soin au deuxième, sinon on est pas bon dans les temps de recharge :)

1: Tourbillonnement
2: Vague de soin
3: Afflux
4: Afflux
5: Tourbillonnement
6: Vague de soin
7: Afflux
8: Afflux (Sirène meurt)
9: Afflux (Casse-Dent entre)
10: Tourbillonnement
11: Vague de soin
12: Afflux
13: Afflux (Casse-Dent meurt)
14+: (Progéniture de Mothallus entre) A partir d'ici, lancez tout ce que vous avez jusqu'à ce que la mascotte adverse soit sous les 400pv, puis de passer jusqu'à la mort du Crabe empereur. Faire entrer le lvl up, switch sur la mascotte qui finira le combat. Vous pouvez aussi utiliser la technique de la mascotte mécanique avec Exploser pour ne pas avoir à faire entrer le lvl up.

Bonne chance

Nigel rédigé le 2017-09-18 06:51:34

Une DOUBLE morsure est nécessaire pour Chrominius entre son Tour 2 et 3.

Nitania

rédigé le 2018-05-17 22:21:40

Походу работает, только если Сирена не кританет по дракончику.

Tasdte rédigé le 2017-11-29 04:59:10

Не работает. Дракончик умирает до третьего, Хроминий не вытягивает

AlexAm rédigé le 2017-06-18 02:35:19

Вместо Хроминия лучше поставить железную звездочку - стандартный суперудар - Ликвидация, Суперзаряд и Ликвидация. Главное на закопаться последним ударом не попасть.