Xu-Fu Strategy vs. Treinamento com Bredda

Nilremife#1435

escreveu em 2020-11-02 09:12:14

worked for me in SL, the sparkler can sometimes make it to quillino, thats ok, just keep following the strat after the sparkler dies.

Angel escreveu em 2018-08-10 04:14:45

I've been suffering from "don't have the pet" syndrome again, so I ended up using Ikky 1/1/1, Effervescent Glowfly 1/2/2 (B/B) and Shimmering Aquafly 2/1/2 (P/B). Ikky does just like all the other strats for him, black claw, flock, die. Then I brought in the Effervescent Glowfly against Quillino. I used the cocoon strike to block as many of the spectral strikes as possible, and used scratch otherwise. When my Glowfly died, I brought in my Shimmering Aquafly to quickly finish him off, and then move on to Fethyr. It just became a war of attrition then, as to which one of us could out-dodge and out-heal the other's damage. I will say it did come down to some rng, as to whether either one of us crit at the end. I would not recommend this as a go-to strategy if someone has the other pets, but if they don't have the others, or have a way to get them, it can work with some patience and a bit of luck.

Stats escreveu em 2019-02-05 21:50:02

"B/B" = 1400/293/276, "P/B" = 1465/273/289

nonster#21263

escreveu em 2020-09-29 17:16:59

yay! After 2 hours of trying different tactics, I tried this one. Well, with a waterfly in third slot, but its the same. It worked. I'm glad:):):):)

Anonymous escreveu em 2018-08-25 00:40:10

This one worked for me. I put the breeds down in case it matters.

Direbeak Hatchling H/S 121
Chi-Chi, Hatchling of Chi-Ji P/S 111
Dread Hatchling P/P 222

Iron Skin
Swarm
Swarm
Predatory Strike
Swarm (Direbeak and Spirit Guide kill each other, bring in Chi-Chi)
Tranquility
Ethereal
Fire Quills
Fire Quills
Tranquility
Ethereal
Fire Quills
Fire Quills (Quillno dies, Fethyr enters)
Tranquility
Ethereal
Fire Quills
Fire Quills
Fire Quills (Chi-Chi dies)
Use Shadow Talon when Fethyr is attackable, use Anzu's Blessing or Consume Corpse when he's lifted off.

Mtburn escreveu em 2019-01-04 04:09:31

Works a lot better than the above strat, which depends on RNG. First try succeeded with this one.

Weeps

escreveu em 2019-08-12 13:33:38

I used Sentinel's Companion (2,2,2) for the 3rd pet since I didn't have Dread Hatchling.

When Fethyr comes in:

Soul Rush
Ethereal
Dark Talon until Soul Rush is off CD.

Use Ethereal when Fethyr is in the air (Lift Off). Sentinel's Companion decimates Fethyr handily.

Sopherra escreveu em 2016-10-24 14:26:43

Moderator note: This comment is very old and involves moveset and statistics which are no longer available.

I used Ikky (P/S 1/1/1), Teroclaw Hatchling (H/P 2/2/2), and Dread Hatchling (P/P 1/1/1).
Turn 1: Black Claw
Turn 2: Flock

Ikky dies shortly after Flock.
Bring in Teroclaw Hatchling
Turn 1: Nature's Ward
Turn 2: Dodge
Turn 3: Alpha Strike
Turn 4: Alpha Strike
Turn 5: Alpha Strike
Turn 6: Nature's Ward
Turn 7: Alpha Strike
Turn 8: Dodge
Turn 9: Alpha Strike
Turn 10: Alpha Strike
Quillino should die, if not use Alpha Strike more.
Turn 1: Nature's Ward
Turn 2: Alpha Strike until Teroclaw dies.

Bring in Hatchling.
Turn 1: Call Darkness
Turn 2: Nocturnal Strike
Turn 3: Peck

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-10-24 22:40:10

Worked great, thank you!

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-11-01 19:40:00

Instead of Ikky I used the Snowfeather Hatchling, and Crow instead of Dread Hatchling. Great strat, not a single problem! thx!

Blasphemous escreveu em 2016-11-01 21:15:00

This is the best strategy hands down. I tried the others a million times and this worked first try.

Nivmizzet escreveu em 2016-11-02 08:51:39

I needed this very much. I was able to even get in a few levels on a high speed level 23 Shimmering Aquafly using Alpha Strike/Healing Stream/Lift Off. Being able to go first over Fethyr is key so you should try to be around 290+ speed.

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-11-13 08:17:47

great strat worked first time just a tip thou dont blindly use nocturnal strike after call darkness and look if he doesnt use lift of use peck instead then (or pass) and use nocturnal strike the turn after

Lohine escreveu em 2016-11-13 13:16:01

Little RNG still, first turn is key that Ikky not hit hard. I used Gilnean Raven (1,2,1) as 3rd. Watch timing on Lift Off attack of 3rd. I needed Peck, then Nocturnal.

Eternitea escreveu em 2016-11-13 17:59:52

I replaced Dread Hatchling with Sentinel's Companion (1,2,2). Soulrush hits Fethyr like a truck and I just save Ethereal for when it uses Lift-Off. Made the last bird easy peasy.

Puki escreveu em 2017-01-25 10:18:54

Works like a charm, thank you

Jingles escreveu em 2017-01-25 10:27:33

This worked first time with ease. Unlike either posted strats - you should submit it!

Libbster escreveu em 2017-01-26 00:35:26

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! I have been beating my head against the wall, until I found this strat. Perfect!

escreveu em 2017-02-05 08:03:44

I added this as an alternative, thank you!

Sopherra escreveu em 2017-04-29 23:44:02

No problem guys! :D

Gwenllian escreveu em 2017-12-12 15:31:07

I did not have a Dread Hatchling so substituted a Crow. It worked the first time. Great strat!

Secretworld

escreveu em 2019-08-05 10:57:26

Is it just me? For the Teroclaw Hatchling, I can't use Dodge and Nature's Ward in the same fight because they are on the same button.

Remte

escreveu em 2019-08-05 12:05:21

This is a very old comment. Teroclaw Hatchling used to have them in separate slots back then, but they were relocated to the same slot in 8.0.1 (July 2018).

Geoffrey escreveu em 2019-01-04 11:32:14

Teroclaw Hatchling was modified such that Dodge and Nature's Ward are now on the same row, so unfortunately the strategies above that require that are no longer relevant. I was able to beat Bredda with the following team suggested by Fantuska on wowhead:
Amber Moth (1, 1, 2)
Firewing (2, 1, 1)
Sentinel's Companion (2, 2, 2)
I think I got lucky the first time as I lost 2/3 tries with this team.

Bella123

escreveu em 2019-06-14 13:38:47

this worked for me

Horndawg escreveu em 2017-01-25 22:08:17

I couldn't get this to work with the Mei Lei Sparkler, but substituted the Teroclaw Hatchling 2,2,2 Starting out with Natures Ward, Dodge, Alpha Strike. Refresh Natures Ward at 1 and use Dodge on cool down fill in with Alpha Strike when the Teroclaw dies bring in your Firewing and follow the instructions from there.

beasterstv escreveu em 2018-06-05 21:08:02

first try with this alteration, thanks!

Misei escreveu em 2017-01-31 08:29:09

Took about ten attempts with this strat before it worked. Gotta be lucky with the spectral strike.

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-11-14 02:15:38

7 times in a row had to reset this fight..nuff said about this strat imo

Mergas escreveu em 2016-12-28 03:48:38

I have to disagree. I used an S/S Shrine Fly, B/B Firewing, and a P/S Amber Moth for this strat. In spite of misskeying and using Scorched Earth instead of Deep Burn on Lil' Spirit Guide, and loosing track of Cocoon Strike and Moth Ball rotation on Fethyr, I was able to beat Bredda the first time through with life to spare on my moth. Maybe rng was with me on the Spectral Strike miss, but the troubles on this strategy were of my own carelessness, not a flaw in the strategy itself.

David G escreveu em 2017-01-21 03:31:38

The RNG was smiling on you. With Quillino's Spectral Spine having a 50% chance to blind, and his Spectral Spike having a base 50% chance to hit, but 100% if you're blinded, that means only a net 25% chance for it to miss. That said, this fight is a lot easier if you put a Teroclaw Hatchling in the second slot. I've submitted the strategy, we'll see if it gets posted.

escreveu em 2016-09-28 06:48:35

OK, so I just got what might be a repeatable strat, (with this one weird trick :) but I've had enough Bredda Flying for one night! I leave it for others to experiment with. It has worked for me three times in a row, which is as much as I can expect. It does not depend on Soulrush stuns, and it does not depend on crits. However, I can imagine people making a mistake in the timing of Teroclaw's Dodge when it's slower, and if Quillino crits, that could be a problem.

Turkey - I used S/S but any breed should do - with Peck, Squawk, Food Coma
Teroclaw with Claw, Dodge, Nature's Ward
Sentinel's Companion with Dark Talon, Soulrush, Ethereal

Food Coma

Swap to Teroclaw. Bredda swaps to Quillino
Dodge
Claw
Nature's Ward
Claw until Quillino dies, but use Dodge to avoid the third blind even though you only get one round. This is tricky; because you're slower, you must use it one round in advance, but it does work. It can go several ways because of RNG, but you want to kill Quillino and survive to eat Lil' Spirit Guide's Rot.

Lil' Spirit Guide comes in and kills Teroclaw with Rot

Bring in Turkey
Food Coma

Bredda swaps to Fethyr
Swap to Sentinel's Companion
Dark Talon
Ethereal to dodge the Lift-Off
Dark Talon until Fethyr dies

When Lil' Spirit Guide comes back in, use Ethereal to dodge Rot, Soulrush on cooldown, Dark Talon as a filler until Sentinel's Companion dies
Finish off with Turkey - Food Coma and spam Peck

Lockturnal escreveu em 2016-09-27 21:03:30

YOU ARE AMAZING! This worked FIRST try thank you!! I was having lots of trouble with the recommend strat above, but this was awesome!!!!! ;-)

escreveu em 2016-09-27 22:16:32

I gave up on magic and just came back to test it. My original attempt included a Soulrush, which was a mistake, because if that stuns, thinks get complicated. I have now edited the strat above to use Dark Talon instead.

The Teroclaw/Quill matchup can go several different ways. The Teroclaw will eat the second Blind, but should dodge the third. That may leave the Teroclaw still alive after Lil' Spirit Guide's Rot, which is annoying, but you can just do a Claw or two so that you don't waste a turn swapping.

I note that, for those who have him, Brightpaw with Prowl and Arcane Rush also does very well against Lil' Spirit Guide.

escreveu em 2016-10-09 19:14:26

Duly sent. ;)

Isiliel escreveu em 2016-10-09 19:40:15

This Strategy worked flawless, I even used a Turkey just in uncommon green :) As long as the turkey is fast, this works great! Thanks :)

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-10-09 22:44:09

Brilliant strat Grainne !

escreveu em 2016-10-10 05:31:37

So Bredda is up again today, and I went back with a clear head to see if I could solidify the Teroclaw part of the strat. No luck with that, I'm afraid. It works fine, but I can't specify an exact number of rounds to Claw because of crits and the blind. Just keep Clawing, never letting Nature's Ward fall off, and especially dodging the first blind your Dodge is back.

escreveu em 2016-10-10 06:06:57

Hey Gráinne! As you can without a doubt see, I didn't have any chance to test Bredda yet. Hopefully this evening I'll have some time to finally do that :)

I wanted to ask you something however. Would you mind sending me a mail to discuss? (top left on the page ^^).

GnuclerGnome escreveu em 2016-10-10 19:34:35

Gráinne, this worked perfectly for me the first time. Thanks! Time will tell if it's easily repeatable or subject to the whims of the RNG Boss. I used an H/S Highlands Turkey with 289 speed which was high enough to go first against the Spirit Guide. I had three rounds between the "Spirit Guide comes in" and my Teroclaw dying from his second Rot as I Dodged the first one that time around.

fr0z3night escreveu em 2016-10-24 12:29:42

Tried main strategy over and over, but this one worked first time, thanks! this should replace or at least be added to an alternate strategy, its obvious it works not even sure RNG comes into it, apart from Teroclaw not using that dodge when Spectral Spine is on 1 to avoid the 3rd Blind. (also the slightest chance Spectral Spine misses the second time and doesn't get to the third)
Thanks Gráinne.

escreveu em 2016-10-24 14:29:40

Hands down, a beautiful strategy. Thank you Gráinne!

GnuclearGnome escreveu em 2016-10-10 19:14:52

You gotta start including the Breeds you're using in these strategies because without the specific breeds necessary, the strats are next to useless. My one and only Mei Li Sparkler is an H/B. It doesn't do enough damage before dying to get the Spirit Guide down to within the reach of my Firewing's Deep Burn. Not even close. My Firewing is an H/B also. Maybe this works if the Sparkler has a Power or Speed breed or if the Firewing is a Power breed, but without those breeds your strat is never gonna work. Which is okay, as long as you indicate needed breeds.

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-10-24 12:03:58

Agreed!!!

escreveu em 2016-10-24 14:23:29

Hey there! I try to make the strategies independent of breeds, so every breed should work. Doesn't always work out sadly, and especially with Bredda (or Sir Galveston) it's sometimes super, super close or even impossible.
I do prefer to bring in other pets or strategies then however, instead of adding breed requirements. That's what I plan with this one as well :-)

Tutonik escreveu em 2016-10-24 09:41:44

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Mike escreveu em 2016-10-24 08:46:32

Your strategies have been great! Many thanks for putting it all up here for us to use!
But i have to say this one isent working for me. Im guessing i have the wrong breeds.
I used Gráinne strategie below instead on Quillino i didnt use dodge a second time.
Keep using claw till he dies then use dodge right after the spirit guides comes in to avoid Rot.
That finally did it for me.

Szuzsika escreveu em 2016-10-24 04:04:54

Instead of Moth I used Dread Hatchling 2/2/2 as 3rd pet, even with Spectral Strike hit and killed my Firewing, I managed to kill Quillino and Fethyr with it.

Jo escreveu em 2016-10-24 06:27:59

Worked great, thank you

Stacy escreveu em 2016-10-10 03:50:51

Thank you, Gráinne!!! This strat totally worked and I appreciate you posting it in the comments because the original strat just didn't work for me. Thanks again. :D

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Soul escreveu em 2016-09-27 05:49:42

Easy fight first try:
My li sparkler */s:
cocoon strike
swarm
swarm
swarm
cocoon strike
scratch (both pets die)
bring in twilight wasp 111
focus(this is resround of lil'spirit)
barbed stinger
puncture wound
barbed stinger
barbed stinger (both pets die)
Sentinels companion 221
moonfire
pass
soulrush
dark talon

Sela escreveu em 2016-09-27 05:45:36

Managed it even though spectral spine hit and my Firewing died, but I had a Fledgling Nether Ray in my last slot. I think a Sentinel's companion would do even better against Fethyr, because it has ethereal, but I hadn't leveled mine.

Anonymous escreveu em 2016-09-26 19:41:09

.......close to 1 hour got stuck on 2nd pet OR couldnt kill last one changed any moth to sentinel's companion and INSTANT WIN on first try..........

Gwez escreveu em 2016-09-27 05:38:33

Best. Advice. Ever.
After 12 fails using the tactic step by step got it with the Sentinel's Companion even after Quillino two-shoted Firewing.

escreveu em 2016-09-27 05:37:31

The RNG is real with Bredda!

I eventually got through it with a H/S Mei-Li Sparkler, used as in Xu-Fu's main strat above, a Sentinel's Companion with Ethereal to dodge the Blind, Soulrush and Dark Talon, and Dread Hatchling that used Anzu's Blessing while Fethyr went up for Lift-Off, Shadow Talon, then recovered with Consume Corpse and slugged it out to a win.

Then I came here to confirm that I wasn't being really stupid and missing an easy option. I am relieved. :) I need to do more work on this one, though.

P.S. I just tried again with two Teroclaws. Each Teroclaw roughly matches each of Bredda's first two pets, so the effect was the same - it came down to Dread Hatchling

Nelaphim escreveu em 2016-09-14 02:47:13

I used Firefly (B/B - So it's base speed is higher than the undead) with 2/1/2 to take on the Lil Spirit, she dies on it's rez round.
Bring in Teroclaw Hatchling with 2/2/2. Nature's Ward, then Quill comes in. Dodge. Then cycle through hitting it and dodging when the cooldown is up. Teroclaw died with Quill at one hit (200ish HP) left.
Brought in Firewing (2/1/1). Used Scorched Earth. Then ate a hit from Lift-Off on the enemies final mob. Spammed it down with Deep Burn, used Healing Flame as needed. Was close. Fight ended with Firewing at 148, enemy dead to Scorched Earth dot.

Jeack escreveu em 2016-09-14 00:16:13

Please note: Firewing/Blazing Firehawk is CRITICAL to the strat. This is the only fight you need it for (according to xu-fu's list), so it may seem pointless to level...just do it. /trust

Teroclaw hatchling (2,2,2) is way better than shrine fly/me li first. Teroclaw kills first pet, and removes some dependence on RNG on 2nd pet.

This is the hardest fight to date. I have completed 6 trainers with all breeds, and this one is *by far* the hardest I have attempted (though I haven't tried flummox...). I have 10 level 25 flyers, including chi-ji, S/S crow, gilnean raven, etc. - nothing worked. Just follow xu fu verbatim...this one is fucking hard.

Radek escreveu em 2016-09-12 19:22:25

Simply to confirm, definitely works, though you may need restart a few times - spectral spine has to /not/ blind you (50% chance) , which then means spectral strike has a 50% miss chance.. get both of those coin flips in your favour, and it's GG :D
As RNG gods seemed to like me, on my win I swapped turn 6's slicing wind to moth balls, and Fethyr died there :)