Changelog: 2020-01-26 - added toxic fumes highlight and team tab 2019-10-27 - removed "missing category" tab, added "bleeding" and "black claw"... might add new ones in the future
No, it's not possible - at least not possible to guarantee.
If you both queue at the same time, then maybe you will meet each other. There used to be a kind of battlegroup separation between people whose first character was on certain sets of realms, but I believe that is gone now.
However, if you want to do it for the Purple stone, it is a LOT faster to do two - orif you are unlucky in the day's rewards, three - World Quests in any expansion after Legion to earn the 35 Charms you need to buy a Purple stone from a vendor.
I've been playing some guy today who has Faceless Portrait among other Faceless Pets. So far I haven't been able to beat him. Anybody have any suggestions against this? I can't even find Faceless Portrait in the list of pets available.
Does anyone have a decent PVP team that consists of super rare pets? I want to play with them and there aren't many I am missing. Just for funzies...has anyone made a cool team with really hard to get pets?
Right now, the cookie-cutter flavor of the week seems to be ragnaros, twilight & nexus whelping. I've been trying to do all the family brawler achievements, and thus far it's hard bc next to none of them I'm beating this cookie-cutter combo atm. It's very disheartening. :(
I found a good team to counter teh popular darkness teams. I kept coming up against Gilnean Raven, Spectral Cat, and Blind Rat teams. So I built a team to counter each one of those with Void Anubisath, Core Hound Pup, and Thaumaturgical Piglet. Worked like a charm.
Hi Everyone! Happy new expansion! Looks like Derangement's Pet Battle Cooldowns has stopped working and it's not been updated for a while. Do you folks know of a replacement for this. It's kinda important in PVP Pet battles. <3
When will we be able to publish our own pvp battle team, I guess these pvp teams are a bit outdated. It would be cool if anyone could publish his own team. And people would upvote (or downvote)
I was in a pvp match just now and i don't know what was going on, bug or exploit.
female panda using resilient roach, cockroach, and dust bunny.
first cast was apocalypse, i replied. somehow 14 rounds were skipped w/o me being able to do anything and my pet died. same thing happened to my next 2 pets. pet #2 had 6 rounds skipped then the next apocalypse was cast, i replied and another 5 rounds skipped letting sandstorm drop off. skips continued until the apocalypse landed again. repeated for the 3rd pet.
the skips kept rolling in my pet battle combat log without any of my pets' abilities being usable . ???????
I don't know how i would even report this to blizzard if it is an exploit.
I'd guess that they were using fast pets with apocalypse and then just skipping until it hits.
To play around the bug to some extent try always first abilities, fast fliers and speed increase abilities such as leap or adrenaline rush. Basically if you're faster then you control if the bug occurs or not.
The bug is innocent of any discrimination. It affects all battles equally!
I suppose you could try to report it. There is a way, I remember, even though you can't right-click the usual way. I looked it up once. Be sure to include the character/realn you were playing, and the EXACT time. Probably the species used in the teams as well.
Personally, I wouldn't bother, It'll be over soon.
Second this. The current teams are outdated and is often countered.
Would be nice to see some new teams with an optimal rotation, rather than just a tier list.
The word "outdated", when used without specifics, doesn't convey anything that would allow someone to help you.
It depends what you're facing. All of the teams I've looked at here seem viable in general, but the current meta is Sandstorm/Weather, or Anomalus. You have to choose your team based on what you expect to face. A Bleed or Black Claw team will hit like overboiled spaghetti in a Sandstorm, so don't use one if your Battlegroup is full of Idols and Guardlings.
No matter what set of teams someone suggests, you have to make your choice depending on what you're facing and what you're capable of playing.
1. Pick the team that suits your local meta! If you're facing weathers, bring your own. If you're facing Anomalus, slot a counter. If you're living in a Darude video, bring hard hitters that will punch throu the Sand.
2. You've still got to play it! If you can read your opponent's intentions, and you know your own team, you can put up a decent fight against most things.
And never forget - the average win rate in PvP is (slightly less than) 50%.
As for rotations, fuggedaboudit! These teams have suggested guidelines about how to handle your own pets, but it always, always depends on predicting and countering your opponent's moves. （已編輯）
Most of the teams are reasonable tbh. There's two of mine that are 90%+ from this expansion. If you play with a rotation it will never ever be optimal especially once you face the same opponent a couple times. The tier list is a close to a cheat list that you can possibly get for PVP literally just put 3 top tier pets on a team and you should get like 70% win rate unless there's a skill issue. （已編輯）
Hey guys! So have you seen the new teams with 3 Anomaluses (technically should be Anomali) that wreck everything without requiring any skill? I had the pleasure of meeting some of those this past week. lol
Anomalus isn't really a pet that benefits from having multiple versions of itself on the same team. One would be enough with 2 pets that synergize with its initial aoe damage/poison.
Thanks to your guides, I managed to get my Family Brawler last week. Those teams with 3 anomaluses are annoying but I managed. Big thank you to Rosqo and Shenk for their great videos. Keep it up folks! <3 （已編輯）
Also, very, VERY easy to fight with. All you need is LITERALLY one pet in your comp with 298+ speed and Brittle Webbing skill. H/S Crystal Spider is HIGHLY recommended, since he has 305 speed, as well as an awesome moveset, with Brittle Webbing, Crystal Prison and Leech Life OR Spiderling Swarm. Put Brittle Weabing at the beginning, see if Anomalus applie Poison Protocol or Void Slap. If later, then Leech Life/Spiderling Swarm, if former, then Crystal Prison and just watch Anomalus melt down himself with its own weapon ;). Rinse and repeat. Done.
Hey guys, great website, thanks a lot for all the work you do. I've got a question about CloneDance teams in particular if you don't mind: How do you choose which pet to use as your clone setter? By power, to have Cyclone, your main source of dps, do as much damage as possible? By survivability (e.g. Blighthawk for UD racial), so it can set Clone as often as possible throughout a match? By type synergy with your Rain Dance pet (should be a Jademist Dancer in 99,9% of all cases if I understood it right :P )? Or am I missing something completely?
so you pretty much almost summed it up. there are multiple reasons to pick one cyclone pet over another and often times it comes down to personal preference. in most cases the cyclone pet either is great as an opener pet (fast with some sort of CC e.g. shore butterfly) or it can deal a lot of damage in a relatively short time (primarily also in form of cleave e.g. voidglower). it also is important that the cyclone pet works well in combination with the buff pet since this isn't always the case (for example they cover as many counters types as possible) （已編輯）
np, thanks for the help! It's good to know I was on the right track, even though that now makes my decision about which clone pet to pick just as hard as before haha
well clone dance still is good enough to make it work with almost any combination of pets. in the end it just comes down to whether the combo has a 75% win ratio or 85%+ ^^ （已編輯）
sunlight/photosynthesis teams are really starting to trigger me as well. working on brutal Pet Brawler by way of Family Brawler is leaving few options. I did find 1 pet that will kill most any of them in 3 rounds but it still leaves me sol even with all darkness teams. I need to git gud ;)
edit: forgot to name the pet. Crypt Fiend from Strathholme pet dungeon vendor. Sticky Web/Roar of the Dead/Call Darkness=a dead healing elemental. i use web first so it can't be swapped when roar lands. i haven't checked all the elementals to see if they have any way to shield/dodge/etc but it has worked so far. i still need to work on the other 2 in the heal team as the crypt fiend is not lasting too long in the back row from sunlight blasts for a repeat performance.
i am doing the undead, humanoid and mechanical brawler teams which is limiting my choices. crypt fiend in a mixed team would drive those heal elemental teams back to the depths where they belong. ;) （已編輯）
Anomalus needs a blizzard review. # 5 of any P/P pet in my 1220 unique collection AND much faster than any P/P pet. puts out lots of team damage even if you don't have flyers magic or critters in your team.
took blizzard more than an expansion to nerf TCS and then they just reduced the meteorite by 5 damage kek. guess we can expect a -3 speed nerf for anomalus in like 9.3.5 （已編輯）
Any news on successfully tested prepatch PVP teams? I obviously have to retire my near 100% win ratio dream team of Anomalus, Wyrmy Tunkins and Hermit Crab…
And thanks God, even tho this team is so easy to fight I was getting sick of battling the same team all over and all over again (there is also Blightbreath, Jademist Dancer and Hermit Crab/Anomalus which also make me sick). There is over 1k pets to choose from yet it happens to meet those two comps sooo often. It only highlits, how limited people are... Apart of treating pet battles as fun, complex and really fun addition to main game, they prefer to play with the same team all time.... Pity, feel sorry for them (huh, time to learn how to play battle pets, fortunately, has come for them ;))) Other thing is, that Blizz in its bottomles “wisdom”, made, say, 5K PVP win achie. Some of those dumb-asses aren’t even actually interested in pets, they are just doing achie hunt ;(. Anomalus, btw, should be nerfed too as this pet is sooooo OP that I have no words.... （已編輯）
lol Murkalot is crazy good. righteous inspiration/falling murloc got in the first hit on my s/s fiendish imp and 1-shot it at full HP. makes me wish i hadn't missed all those blizzcons ;)
It's the inherent nature of the current PvP system, in which anyone can select any team, and everyone is in the same queue.
Lots of people don't enjoy it. They just do it for the achievement, or the Direhorn, or whatever. They see no reason to play teams that please someone else's aesthetic sense of what teams are not "lame".
P.S. As a point of personal opinion, I don't object to AoE teams as strongly as heal-and-swap teams, since they don't leave you with the decision of resigning immediately or being stuck there for an hour.
But nevertheless people have a right to play heal-and-stall teams. And I have a right to chase that team through the queue until it doesn't want to live any more! （已編輯）
a counter team is only going to help if you see that team next time. I have seen a Fragment of Desire/Anger/Suffering undead team a few times, and SoulRush is stunning way too often.
yeah, blossoming ancient, singing sunflower, corefire imp sucks. Even the imp healed to full once after a big hit. 30 rounds later 2 of those pets was at or near full health and the other was at 1/2.
Would be cool to have something similar to the strategy system for PvP teams with information like (basic) rotation, pros / cons, win / lose statistics etc. I understand it's different from fights against scripted NPCs. It's thought as team suggestions.
I'm really not sure what that would look like. Win/Lose stats maybe ... Disco did them for pets once, but they change with every meta, so there is no continuity. If you want to learn, start with the suggestions above, or some team you feel comfortable with, and just hop into the queue! It's pet week, so an excellent time, when all the beginners and non-battlers are out.
i can't see how the existing pvp teams don't already have basic rotations. and concerning the win/lose rate... they are not set in stone, since they may vary a lot based on your skill and the meta that you are playing in.
I actually didn't see the PvP strategies on the left hand side otherwise I'd probably didn't write that. Although as highlighted above, in PvP there are other points that matter. An option would be to introduce a new strategy parameter like enemyType (environment|player). Depending on the value, it shows different information for a user. I'm clearly aware that enemies differ from fight to fight, but it's still statistical data, e. g. I make a new fancy PvP team and write that I won 89 fights out of 100 fights. Additionally, this was just an idea not a whole concept. Just an idea from a newbie. I like both, pve and pvp fights. For PvE this site is perfect with all those great strategies, but for PvP I get less information, I could chose one of those 6 teams / strategies created by Shenk and I dont say there are bad. I just mean there could be more of those, also from many other players, and with a better focus on PvP related information. I hope you get my impartial point. And Grainne, of course you should have to update your PvP strategies as you should update your PvE strategies when Blizzard change spells or stuff. Another suggestion would be to bound a strategy to the respective Game version and also show the updated time, e. g. when I would create a strategy now, you'd see Patch 8.1.5 - 23.05.2019. So you can easily see how updated a strategy is. People would simply see if a strategy is outdated.
you're asking too much from a pvp section on a website that actually is just there to help with pve encounters. putting so much effort into the systems you are proposing would be meaningful to just a very small amount of users.
also those pvp teams are there just to give a general idea about what you could play. playing and learning the strategies yourself is imo more beneficial than writing down every single situation that you could find yourself in (also that would be too much work^^)
I'm not asking for it. It was an idea. You dont like it, that's okay.
I don't know how many users would use it, probably you also don't have statistical data about it, but nvm.
You can also use your own strategies for scripted fights or you use the knowledge of the mass. No one forces anyone to use any strategy. Personally, as said before, I would welcome it to see such pvp strategies of other players.
But if you decline my idea, simply remove this whole message and next time I have an idea I won't annoy you with it.
I don't like the heal and stall idea at all but Blizz in their wisdom, have given us an achievement to win 5 in a row and no pet dies, so heal and stall it is then
Even the dreaded Sunlight->Photosynthesis->Swap->Sunlight->Photosynthesis->Swap sequence is very far from guaranteed. It is the ONE thing in PvP that will make me determined to chase that team through the queue and destroy its will to live. :)
OK, I'm not actually in the queue much these days, :) but I'm also not the only one that team riles up.
I have heard that if you have racked up one or more wins towards the achievement, and then flee a battle before any moves, that your wins remain towards the achievement. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. I heard it long after I got my NTTH, so I can't test it. If you are trying for the achievement, it would be a good time to test, when you see a counter that is sure to absolutely crush you.
iirc i did this a loooong time ago with a level 1 team. every win granted the team one more level (given they all participated). and in the lowlevels people tend to have very low exp and often not even rare quality pets
I am able to que with a triple frostfur rat team and get zero matches. When I select a different team it ques me nearly instantly with a stall team. Something very strange has changed and there is nothing from blizzard talking about it except to lie about how pet's are forever.
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Psydesho
發表在 2025-01-27 16:16:55
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Gráinne
發表在 2025-01-28 01:52:47
If you both queue at the same time, then maybe you will meet each other. There used to be a kind of battlegroup separation between people whose first character was on certain sets of realms, but I believe that is gone now.
However, if you want to do it for the Purple stone, it is a LOT faster to do two - orif you are unlucky in the day's rewards, three - World Quests in any expansion after Legion to earn the 35 Charms you need to buy a Purple stone from a vendor.
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Psydesho
發表在 2025-02-01 17:18:11
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mraymus
發表在 2024-11-09 18:53:07
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Gráinne
發表在 2024-11-09 21:28:25
Did your opponent just rename the pet to Faceless Portrait ?
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mraymus
發表在 2024-11-10 06:41:14
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logicdropper
發表在 2023-09-26 03:40:02
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thebl4ckd0g
發表在 2023-09-12 00:13:56
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denny 發表在 2023-08-08 07:44:23
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hirambab
發表在 2023-09-08 04:28:16
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Agogo
發表在 2023-06-12 01:55:04
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Kaxer
發表在 2022-11-19 17:34:27
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Gethiel 發表在 2022-01-18 08:35:50
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Gráinne
發表在 2022-01-18 09:42:24
You just have to register as a user of the site, and then you have the ability to create strats.
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Shenk
發表在 2022-01-21 15:48:13
u can add your own teams just like you can do in any of the pve sections on this site
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Toenail
發表在 2021-07-09 18:52:36
female panda using resilient roach, cockroach, and dust bunny.
first cast was apocalypse, i replied. somehow 14 rounds were skipped w/o me being able to do anything and my pet died. same thing happened to my next 2 pets. pet #2 had 6 rounds skipped then the next apocalypse was cast, i replied and another 5 rounds skipped letting sandstorm drop off. skips continued until the apocalypse landed again. repeated for the 3rd pet.
the skips kept rolling in my pet battle combat log without any of my pets' abilities being usable . ???????
I don't know how i would even report this to blizzard if it is an exploit.
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Gráinne
發表在 2021-07-09 19:18:58
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Rosqo
發表在 2021-07-09 19:39:39
To play around the bug to some extent try always first abilities, fast fliers and speed increase abilities such as leap or adrenaline rush. Basically if you're faster then you control if the bug occurs or not.
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Toenail
發表在 2021-07-10 00:39:51
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Gráinne
發表在 2021-07-10 01:19:44
I suppose you could try to report it. There is a way, I remember, even though you can't right-click the usual way. I looked it up once. Be sure to include the character/realn you were playing, and the EXACT time. Probably the species used in the teams as well.
Personally, I wouldn't bother, It'll be over soon.
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Rosqo
發表在 2021-07-10 02:19:48
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GCSuns
發表在 2021-12-21 10:24:25
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Kals 發表在 2021-01-02 13:53:19
Seems like most of the current ones are barely working 1/4 matches
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anays 發表在 2021-05-14 11:22:54
Would be nice to see some new teams with an optimal rotation, rather than just a tier list.
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Gráinne
發表在 2021-05-14 12:39:26
It depends what you're facing. All of the teams I've looked at here seem viable in general, but the current meta is Sandstorm/Weather, or Anomalus. You have to choose your team based on what you expect to face. A Bleed or Black Claw team will hit like overboiled spaghetti in a Sandstorm, so don't use one if your Battlegroup is full of Idols and Guardlings.
No matter what set of teams someone suggests, you have to make your choice depending on what you're facing and what you're capable of playing.
1. Pick the team that suits your local meta! If you're facing weathers, bring your own. If you're facing Anomalus, slot a counter. If you're living in a Darude video, bring hard hitters that will punch throu the Sand.
2. You've still got to play it! If you can read your opponent's intentions, and you know your own team, you can put up a decent fight against most things.
And never forget - the average win rate in PvP is (slightly less than) 50%.
As for rotations, fuggedaboudit! These teams have suggested guidelines about how to handle your own pets, but it always, always depends on predicting and countering your opponent's moves. （已編輯）
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Rosqo
發表在 2021-05-15 16:35:00
The tier list is a close to a cheat list that you can possibly get for PVP literally just put 3 top tier pets on a team and you should get like 70% win rate unless there's a skill issue. （已編輯）
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Kaxer
發表在 2020-08-10 04:17:03
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Rosqo
發表在 2020-08-10 05:58:48
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Shenk
發表在 2020-08-10 06:35:25
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Kaxer
發表在 2020-08-19 01:54:58
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Pankracy#2378
發表在 2021-04-19 11:31:36
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Sart 發表在 2021-01-13 21:10:37
Hey guys, great website, thanks a lot for all the work you do. I've got a question about CloneDance teams in particular if you don't mind: How do you choose which pet to use as your clone setter? By power, to have Cyclone, your main source of dps, do as much damage as possible? By survivability (e.g. Blighthawk for UD racial), so it can set Clone as often as possible throughout a match? By type synergy with your Rain Dance pet (should be a Jademist Dancer in 99,9% of all cases if I understood it right :P )? Or am I missing something completely?
Thanks in advance!
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Shenk
發表在 2021-01-22 13:30:27
so you pretty much almost summed it up. there are multiple reasons to pick one cyclone pet over another and often times it comes down to personal preference. in most cases the cyclone pet either is great as an opener pet (fast with some sort of CC e.g. shore butterfly) or it can deal a lot of damage in a relatively short time (primarily also in form of cleave e.g. voidglower).
it also is important that the cyclone pet works well in combination with the buff pet since this isn't always the case (for example they cover as many counters types as possible) （已編輯）
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Sart 發表在 2021-01-24 06:10:59
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Shenk
發表在 2021-01-24 07:00:35
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Toenail
發表在 2020-11-22 18:57:53
edit: forgot to name the pet. Crypt Fiend from Strathholme pet dungeon vendor. Sticky Web/Roar of the Dead/Call Darkness=a dead healing elemental. i use web first so it can't be swapped when roar lands. i haven't checked all the elementals to see if they have any way to shield/dodge/etc but it has worked so far. i still need to work on the other 2 in the heal team as the crypt fiend is not lasting too long in the back row from sunlight blasts for a repeat performance.
i am doing the undead, humanoid and mechanical brawler teams which is limiting my choices. crypt fiend in a mixed team would drive those heal elemental teams back to the depths where they belong. ;)
（已編輯）
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Toenail
發表在 2020-11-22 15:46:06
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Shenk
發表在 2020-11-22 16:08:05
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Toenail
發表在 2020-11-22 18:52:53
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Jarbringer 發表在 2020-10-15 05:15:01
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Mutanis
發表在 2020-10-15 05:30:49
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Pankracy#2378
發表在 2020-10-25 16:17:07
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Toenail
發表在 2019-12-06 13:27:01
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JarofFlies
發表在 2019-09-20 09:53:57
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Gráinne
發表在 2019-09-20 10:53:54
Lots of people don't enjoy it. They just do it for the achievement, or the Direhorn, or whatever. They see no reason to play teams that please someone else's aesthetic sense of what teams are not "lame".
P.S. As a point of personal opinion, I don't object to AoE teams as strongly as heal-and-swap teams, since they don't leave you with the decision of resigning immediately or being stuck there for an hour.
But nevertheless people have a right to play heal-and-stall teams. And I have a right to chase that team through the queue until it doesn't want to live any more! （已編輯）
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Shenk
發表在 2019-09-21 13:56:43
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Toenail
發表在 2019-06-09 21:01:17
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Remte
發表在 2019-06-10 03:00:25
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Shenk
發表在 2019-06-11 04:30:16
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Gráinne
發表在 2019-07-03 04:30:44
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Toenail
發表在 2019-06-09 20:16:24
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ragath
發表在 2019-05-23 10:42:27
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Gráinne
發表在 2019-05-23 11:40:02
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Shenk
發表在 2019-05-23 14:44:41
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ragath
發表在 2019-05-23 17:09:24
And Grainne, of course you should have to update your PvP strategies as you should update your PvE strategies when Blizzard change spells or stuff.
Another suggestion would be to bound a strategy to the respective Game version and also show the updated time, e. g. when I would create a strategy now, you'd see Patch 8.1.5 - 23.05.2019. So you can easily see how updated a strategy is. People would simply see if a strategy is outdated.
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Shenk
發表在 2019-05-23 18:07:58
also those pvp teams are there just to give a general idea about what you could play. playing and learning the strategies yourself is imo more beneficial than writing down every single situation that you could find yourself in (also that would be too much work^^)
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ragath
發表在 2019-05-23 18:15:54
I don't know how many users would use it, probably you also don't have statistical data about it, but nvm.
You can also use your own strategies for scripted fights or you use the knowledge of the mass. No one forces anyone to use any strategy. Personally, as said before, I would welcome it to see such pvp strategies of other players.
But if you decline my idea, simply remove this whole message and next time I have an idea I won't annoy you with it.
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aelfraed 發表在 2019-05-05 04:33:13
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Gráinne
發表在 2019-05-05 09:27:09
OK, I'm not actually in the queue much these days, :) but I'm also not the only one that team riles up.
I have heard that if you have racked up one or more wins towards the achievement, and then flee a battle before any moves, that your wins remain towards the achievement. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. I heard it long after I got my NTTH, so I can't test it. If you are trying for the achievement, it would be a good time to test, when you see a counter that is sure to absolutely crush you.
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Shenk
發表在 2019-05-09 18:54:54
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Morgue
發表在 2021-03-06 18:30:45
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