Surviving the Meta
1. Introduction
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In this part of the PvP section we want to prepare you for the current Meta game that you will face playing against random opponents. Further below is a simple list of some of the most popular and strongest team compositions. We explain their functionality and also name some abilities/pets that these teams are being played with, together with suggestions of how to counter stated strategies.
Furthermore this article serves as a platform to upload your favorite PvP teams for others to discuss about or to help people who find themselves troubled creating good teams on their own. On the left side you can see different categories in which spoken teams can be uploaded.
Please note that different Meta-gameplay can be expected depending on the region you are in. Therefor both lists -the written introduction and the categories of the strategy creation tool- are never considered to be finished and will evolve with the Meta and your suggestions of themes that this article is missing.
We hope that we can make PvP pet battling more attractive to you and we look forward to read your opinions and knowledge for sharing and improving.
-Shenk & Rosqo
Here we will go through the most common strategies and highlighted abilities you will face whilst in the PvP queue and how to set up your teams to counter them.
2. Call Darkness
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Призыв тьмы is the strongest weather ability bar none. It also has several abilities which synergize extremely well with it:
Ночной удар,
Призрачный удар,
Атака исподтишка,
Пробуждение Света,
Свет and
Ярость 1000 кулаков. Most Darkness teams will run at least one flying pet with
Призыв тьмы and
Ночной удар and the rest with something else that gets buffed by darkness or blinding effects. They are difficult combinations to counter because of the burst nature of the teams.
Common pets:
Костяной змей, any
Ночной удар flier with 292+ speed or 300+ power like
Грозный птенец,
Хладошкурая крыса,
Росток Ночной Тени,
Призрачный ворон,
Сумрак,
Тенёк,
Душа Аспектов
Counters: Weather Changes (2+), Elementals, Blocks/Deflects/Dodges for the big combo hits,
Пробуждение Света, Beasts with strong magic damage (take less damage from
Призыв тьмы and counter the flier e.g.
Волшебный поросенок)
3. Traps
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Traps are in theory depending on RNG but in the majority of fights they work pretty reliable. Quite often both
Магматическая ловушка and
Капкан will trigger right away, dealing not few damage and also stunning the affected pet for an entire round. This gives you a huge advantage. Traps are also hard to counter due to their unpredictability and because they trigger when they get removed.
Common pets:
Огнепес,
Рагнароша,
Магматический яростишка,
Трутик,
Любопытный маленький волчер,
Заводной попрыгун
Counters: Critters, Arcane Winds (e.g.
Чародейская буря), Dodge & Block abilities (can still fail)
->Note: dispelling or removing it will trigger the trap!
4. AoE/Cleave
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This kind of teams is currently the most popular one for a number of reasons. AoE is easy to play, often very effective, can be tough to beat without a direct counter and you can play it even with very cheap pets. The strength of such a team lies within killing the whole enemy team simultaneously. This can also be used against it, as those players often spam nothing but cleaves, which will struggle against pets that are tanky or have a good self sustain.
Common pets:
Гнилопых,
Адский огнекоготь,
Сестра Сумрака,
Разрушитель XXS-002,
Поганчик
Counters:
Песчаная буря, Team-Blocks (e.g.
Дымовая шашка), Blinding Effects, Reflect/Thorns Effects (e.g.
Режущая паутина), Team Heal,
Немощность/
Банка вонючей жижи, High Hp Pets
5. Clone Dance
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The Clone Dance strategy covers good single target and team-wide damage, which is what makes it so successful. The core idea is to summon a
Смерч and then boost it with a buff that increases your hit chance. In most of the cases that's a
Танец дождя (hence the name 'Clone Dance).
Common
Смерч pets:
Чумной ястреб,
Бесконечный дракончик, P/P Buzzards or Eagles (e.g.
Оперившийся королевский орел),
Береговая бабочка,
Детеныш дикого золотистого змея/
Детеныш дикого нефритового змея
Common buff pets:
Танцор из нефритовых туманов,
Пода, P/P Toucans (e.g.
Кровоклюв),
Королевский павлинчик,
Молодой песчаный решетник
Counters: Debuff Removals,
Песчаная буря, Dragons, Blocking or Blinding the
Смерч, Minefields (unless it's against a
Танцор из нефритовых туманов), any Wave Attacks (e.g.
Магматическая волна)
6. Leeching (Plagued Blood)
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Instead of direct healing abilities this strategy relies on applying buffs or debuffs like
Зараженная кровь, which will heal the attacker whenever it hits the affected pet. That way a team of badly hurt pets can get back to full or high health in the middle of the match while still dealing damage. However, failing to hit debuffed pets however will negate the purpose of this strategy and lower the chance to win. Therefor often mind games will come into action.
Common pets:
Сын Сете,
Рубиновая капля,
Оскверненный дракончик,
Порождение Анимуса,
Призрачный червь,
Зандаларский ногогрыз
Counters:
Призыв тьмы,
Песчаная буря, Dodge/Block/Blinding for
Касание Анимуса or other vampiric abilities with a Cooldown, Reflects (e.g.
Токсичная кожа)
7. Toxic Fumes
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Ядовитые пары is the newest weather in patch 8.3. It has two effects; it extends the duration of any damage over time effect by 1 round (the opposite of cleansing rain) and all pets are considered poisoned. This makes it a versatile ability because there are multiple ways to gain value from it.
Заразный удар and
Колотая рана are the only two abilities that are stronger against a poisoned target, but since all pets with these can apply poisons themselve this combo isn't that powerful. The more impactful synergies come from DoTs that used to be balanced by lasting for a short duration and can be extremely potent having one extra round of effect under
Ядовитые пары. Examples would be
Протокол отравления,
Огромное жало or
Коррозия.
Common pets:
Аномалус,
Воющий плеточник,
Зараженный Бездной таракан,
Гнилодых
Counters: Weather changes (2+, espacially
Песчаная буря), Aquatics against DoT teams, Team heals against DoT teams (e.g.
Ужасающая песня), Shields (e.g.
Железная шкура)
Note that as of 8.3.0 the racial of elemental pets
does not work properly for
Ядовитые пары. For some abilities it works and for others it doesn't (e.g.
Колотая рана).
8. Heal & Stall
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For the most part these are the kind of teams which require little to no skill and are unnecessarily lengthening the match. They are spamming a lot of healing and blocking abilities to either prevent you from dealing any damage or outheal that which you can deal. We really don't want to support this behaviour but since there is a high chance for you to encounter them we're listing them for the sake of coverage. Not every pet that falls in this category is negative for the Meta and on its own can be a good and reasonable pick, but focusing an entire team around that theme is toxic and should be avoided for fair sportsmanship.
Common abilities:
Фотосинтез+
Солнечный свет combinations (e.g.
Цветущее древо),
Приманка Spam, anything that uses
Пожелание, Humanoids with
Обжигающий жар,
Кровоточащая рана together with
Солнечный свет
Counters:
Призыв тьмы or other Healing Reduce, Root Effects (e.g.
Sticky Goo), Forced Swaps, strong Single Target Hits (e.g.
Брандспойт)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGethiel написал на 2022-01-18 08:35:50
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2022-01-18 09:42:24
You just have to register as a user of the site, and then you have the ability to create strats.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2022-01-21 15:48:13
u can add your own teams just like you can do in any of the pve sections on this site
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написал на 2021-07-09 18:52:36
female panda using resilient roach, cockroach, and dust bunny.
first cast was apocalypse, i replied. somehow 14 rounds were skipped w/o me being able to do anything and my pet died. same thing happened to my next 2 pets. pet #2 had 6 rounds skipped then the next apocalypse was cast, i replied and another 5 rounds skipped letting sandstorm drop off. skips continued until the apocalypse landed again. repeated for the 3rd pet.
the skips kept rolling in my pet battle combat log without any of my pets' abilities being usable . ???????
I don't know how i would even report this to blizzard if it is an exploit.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2021-07-09 19:18:58
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написал на 2021-07-09 19:39:39
To play around the bug to some extent try always first abilities, fast fliers and speed increase abilities such as leap or adrenaline rush. Basically if you're faster then you control if the bug occurs or not.
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написал на 2021-07-10 00:39:51
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2021-07-10 01:19:44
I suppose you could try to report it. There is a way, I remember, even though you can't right-click the usual way. I looked it up once. Be sure to include the character/realn you were playing, and the EXACT time. Probably the species used in the teams as well.
Personally, I wouldn't bother, It'll be over soon.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииRosqo
написал на 2021-07-10 02:19:48
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написал на 2021-12-21 10:24:25
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииKals написал на 2021-01-02 13:53:19
Seems like most of the current ones are barely working 1/4 matches
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииanays написал на 2021-05-14 11:22:54
Would be nice to see some new teams with an optimal rotation, rather than just a tier list.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2021-05-14 12:39:26
It depends what you're facing. All of the teams I've looked at here seem viable in general, but the current meta is Sandstorm/Weather, or Anomalus. You have to choose your team based on what you expect to face. A Bleed or Black Claw team will hit like overboiled spaghetti in a Sandstorm, so don't use one if your Battlegroup is full of Idols and Guardlings.
No matter what set of teams someone suggests, you have to make your choice depending on what you're facing and what you're capable of playing.
1. Pick the team that suits your local meta! If you're facing weathers, bring your own. If you're facing Anomalus, slot a counter. If you're living in a Darude video, bring hard hitters that will punch throu the Sand.
2. You've still got to play it! If you can read your opponent's intentions, and you know your own team, you can put up a decent fight against most things.
And never forget - the average win rate in PvP is (slightly less than) 50%.
As for rotations, fuggedaboudit! These teams have suggested guidelines about how to handle your own pets, but it always, always depends on predicting and countering your opponent's moves. (edited)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииRosqo
написал на 2021-05-15 16:35:00
The tier list is a close to a cheat list that you can possibly get for PVP literally just put 3 top tier pets on a team and you should get like 70% win rate unless there's a skill issue. (edited)
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написал на 2020-08-10 04:17:03
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииRosqo
написал на 2020-08-10 05:58:48
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2020-08-10 06:35:25
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииSart написал на 2021-01-13 21:10:37
Hey guys, great website, thanks a lot for all the work you do. I've got a question about CloneDance teams in particular if you don't mind: How do you choose which pet to use as your clone setter? By power, to have Cyclone, your main source of dps, do as much damage as possible? By survivability (e.g. Blighthawk for UD racial), so it can set Clone as often as possible throughout a match? By type synergy with your Rain Dance pet (should be a Jademist Dancer in 99,9% of all cases if I understood it right :P )? Or am I missing something completely?
Thanks in advance!
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2021-01-22 13:30:27
so you pretty much almost summed it up. there are multiple reasons to pick one cyclone pet over another and often times it comes down to personal preference. in most cases the cyclone pet either is great as an opener pet (fast with some sort of CC e.g. shore butterfly) or it can deal a lot of damage in a relatively short time (primarily also in form of cleave e.g. voidglower).
it also is important that the cyclone pet works well in combination with the buff pet since this isn't always the case (for example they cover as many counters types as possible) (edited)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииSart написал на 2021-01-24 06:10:59
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написал на 2020-11-22 18:57:53
edit: forgot to name the pet. Crypt Fiend from Strathholme pet dungeon vendor. Sticky Web/Roar of the Dead/Call Darkness=a dead healing elemental. i use web first so it can't be swapped when roar lands. i haven't checked all the elementals to see if they have any way to shield/dodge/etc but it has worked so far. i still need to work on the other 2 in the heal team as the crypt fiend is not lasting too long in the back row from sunlight blasts for a repeat performance.
i am doing the undead, humanoid and mechanical brawler teams which is limiting my choices. crypt fiend in a mixed team would drive those heal elemental teams back to the depths where they belong. ;)
(edited)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииToenail
написал на 2020-11-22 15:46:06
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написал на 2020-11-22 16:08:05
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написал на 2020-10-15 05:30:49
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написал на 2020-10-25 16:17:07
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написал на 2019-12-06 13:27:01
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написал на 2019-09-20 09:53:57
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2019-09-20 10:53:54
Lots of people don't enjoy it. They just do it for the achievement, or the Direhorn, or whatever. They see no reason to play teams that please someone else's aesthetic sense of what teams are not "lame".
P.S. As a point of personal opinion, I don't object to AoE teams as strongly as heal-and-swap teams, since they don't leave you with the decision of resigning immediately or being stuck there for an hour.
But nevertheless people have a right to play heal-and-stall teams. And I have a right to chase that team through the queue until it doesn't want to live any more! (edited)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2019-09-21 13:56:43
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написал на 2019-06-09 21:01:17
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написал на 2019-06-10 03:00:25
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2019-06-11 04:30:16
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2019-07-03 04:30:44
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написал на 2019-06-09 20:16:24
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииragath
написал на 2019-05-23 10:42:27
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2019-05-23 11:40:02
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2019-05-23 14:44:41
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииragath
написал на 2019-05-23 17:09:24
And Grainne, of course you should have to update your PvP strategies as you should update your PvE strategies when Blizzard change spells or stuff.
Another suggestion would be to bound a strategy to the respective Game version and also show the updated time, e. g. when I would create a strategy now, you'd see Patch 8.1.5 - 23.05.2019. So you can easily see how updated a strategy is. People would simply see if a strategy is outdated.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2019-05-23 18:07:58
also those pvp teams are there just to give a general idea about what you could play. playing and learning the strategies yourself is imo more beneficial than writing down every single situation that you could find yourself in (also that would be too much work^^)
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииragath
написал на 2019-05-23 18:15:54
I don't know how many users would use it, probably you also don't have statistical data about it, but nvm.
You can also use your own strategies for scripted fights or you use the knowledge of the mass. No one forces anyone to use any strategy. Personally, as said before, I would welcome it to see such pvp strategies of other players.
But if you decline my idea, simply remove this whole message and next time I have an idea I won't annoy you with it.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииaelfraed написал на 2019-05-05 04:33:13
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииGráinne
написал на 2019-05-05 09:27:09
OK, I'm not actually in the queue much these days, :) but I'm also not the only one that team riles up.
I have heard that if you have racked up one or more wins towards the achievement, and then flee a battle before any moves, that your wins remain towards the achievement. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. I heard it long after I got my NTTH, so I can't test it. If you are trying for the achievement, it would be a good time to test, when you see a counter that is sure to absolutely crush you.
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Вы должны войти в систему, чтобы голосовать за комментарииShenk
написал на 2019-05-09 18:54:54
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